Kell-Chat
An Ongoing International Conversation
between Callaway and Kellaway and Kelway family researchers
discussing family origin, history and genealogy research in England
2004
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From: Brian Kelway Willoughby
Sent: Sep 2, 2004
Subject: Kempley, Gloucestershire: de Cailly Connection

This item caught my eye recently - my apologies if you know it already. I had it in mind during my recent trip to Normandy (of which more shortly).

The Transactions of the Bristol & Gloucestershire Archaeological Society (BGAS Vol XXXVI - 1913, pp 130-142), contain an article on The History of Kempley Manor and Church, Gloucestershire, by W St Clair Baddeley. (Kempley is a small village some 17 miles WNW of Cheltenham, distinguished by its beautiful small Norman Church which still has the remains of wall paintings dating back to about 1110.)

The article includes a pedigree of the de Longchamp family, in which W St C B notes that Kempley was part of the dowry of Emma de St Leger when she married Hugh de Longchamp (in very roughly 1170), and shows that Hugh’s younger brother Stephen de Longchamp married Petronel, daughter of Osbert de Cailly (probably in about 1200 +/- 20 years or so). [This provides a somewhat tenuous link between the de Caillys and Kempley, but it does apparently account for the W St C B mentioning the de Caillys at all.]

The marriage (cc 1200) of Petronel de Cailly to Stephen de Longchamp apparently produced 3 daughters:-

1. Richenda de Longchamp - married (cc1230) Matthew de Cleres, Castellan of Dover

(A). The village of Cailly-sur-Eure (current population 233) and the town of Evreux (51,198) are only 13 km (8 miles) apart.

(B). The two Caillouets are also each only 15 km (9 miles) from Cailly-sur-Eure.

(C). I happen to have a ref to an Osberto Caiuel (Somerset) in an 1181 Pipe Roll.

The de Longchamp pedigree throws some interesting light on the family into which Petronel de Cailly was marrying. In summary Hugh de Longchamp (died c 1197): son of Gilbert de Longchamp: descendant of Hugh de Longchamp 5^th Baron who died 1184. The Hugh who died 1197 married a de Laci.

(A). Hugh de Longchamp (#3 above) held 1 fee in Normandy - the dowry of his wife Emma (de S Leger) included the Manor of Kempley in Gloucestershire.

(B). William de Longchamp was a famous Chancellor of England, variously in and out of favour with the King, Richard I.

(C). Stephen de Longchamp (#5 above), Steward of Normandy, married cc 1200 Petronel, daughter of Osbert de Cailly (see above).

(D). The County (shire) and City of Gloucester were connected with Normandy in various ways at that time. Robert (Curthose) Duke of Normandy, the eldest son of William the Conqueror, was buried in 1134 in the Abbey Church of Gloucester, at his own wish. The Abbey later (1540) became Gloucester Cathedral. (One of the Cathedral’s treasures today is a remarkable lifesize painted wooden monument of this Robert of Normandy, depicted as a Crusader and carved some 150 years after his death.)

This BGAS reference connects the place and family of (de) Cailly with the Kempley area of Gloucestershire and with specific governing/establishment officials of Normandy, Gloucestershire and elsewhere, in the 12 th and 13 th centuries.

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Sep 2, 2004
Subject: Kempley, Gloucestershire: de Cailly Connection

The article about Sir Humphrey Gilbert on the CFA Blog and his possible mother-in-law, Ann Aucher nee Kellaway sent me into a flurry of research.

Whilst we have crawled over the Rockbourne family for years, there is probably much that we still do not know. Already, persuing the reference to Sir Humphrey, I have been led to his associates who, following his lead began visiting Roanoke SC and transporting settlers to Virginia. Interestingly they came from Kent and Essex, so we may have been blinkered in seeking ancestors from the south west counties of the U.K. rather than the south east. A germ of an idea is developing, and I have been led back to the original research by Currier-Briggs (a professional genealogist employed by the CFA). He spoke often about the early Kellaway settlers.
Bruce

Bruce
I found the biography of Sir Humphrey interesting, even if he did not achieve a lot in the Americas, other than claim Newfoundland for England. He was not covered in my new Historical Atlas of Exploration for example, although his brother was referred to.

We popped this Sir William into the 'too hard' basket a couple of years ago. I too have his dates as 1440-1507 with daughters Alice, and Lora who married the famous Sir Amyas Paulett in 1483, and Jane who married John Payne (and his complicated family). Without wishing to further complicate matters at this stage, I believe that it was suggested that these girls had a brother Robert (of New Sarum) who was possibly the father of Robert of the Wards and Liveries!

Brian

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Sep 10, 2004
Subject: Aucher/Calloway

Brian, Bruce,

Yes, we would dearly love to find that Robert, and his family. He was presumed to have been born around 1470-5, with dear old Robert W&L being born in 1497.

Unfortunately however we really know nothing of him to start with. That is apart from both Roberts being Mayors of Salisbury, as had a certain William Webb "alias Kellowe", earlier.

It should be pointed out that we found that my old original supposition that Robert W&L might have been the son of William of Stalbridge and Elizabeth Wyfen was not correct, nor was he a known relative of the Robert who married Joan Marshall, actually some 30 years later than I at first thought.

To reinvent my alternative "later" supposition, while he had very close association with the Rockborne Knights in his later years, he had been more involved with the other, "senior" Wiltshire family earlier, where the two other Roberts lay - one about his age.

There seemed to be a missing generation, perhaps with two consecutive Thomases rather than the one in that family, and there remains the possibility that he was in there somewhere.

We can no longer consider the illegitimacy theory for Robert W&L himself, as his father at least is known.

So there still seem three alternatives:

1 He was a curiously unnoted (bearing in mind his importance) member of the Rockborne family, as apparently was Ann.

2 He was somewhere obscured in the other Dorset/Wiltshire family of the time.

3 He was part of that aliased family of Webb. (We seem to have no means of resolving that, or any, of those early aliases, but in his case at least, there must surely have been some family connection, or he would not have associated with them so much, nor been allowed to borrow the name. Apart from the possibility of illegitimacy with his father, or William Webb, could Webb also perhaps have married a Caleway/Kayleway daughter - somewhere about 1450 - the two Roberts, his son and grandson?)

I now tend to favour the third.

Here we go again.

Warwick

From: Sherrill Williams
Sent: Sep 10, 2004
Subject: Sir William - 1st Knight

I seem to remember that we "filed" this subject a while back. Will have to read Kellchat to refresh. What I casually recall is that in a Chancery (or Ct of Request) document, dealing with the "jointure" of Dame Anne (w/o the 2nd William, knight) in the Rockborne estate it is mentioned that Sir John Callaway and Mr. Robert Callaway concurred with Dame Anne's jointure agreement, made at or before her marriage. This raised the question - who is "Mr. Robert" ?

Further, it is on record that Sir John inherited the Rockborne property from Sir William C/K [the 1st one] at Sir William's death around 1508.

So, who is "Mr. Robert"? Since there are no other candidates, we (or I) decided he must be the Robert, mayor of New Sarum (Salisbury) and somtimes MP from there. Then along comes Mistress Alys (Alice) Gover Byfleet Callaway, and law suits with William Dean. Alice, the widow of John Byfleet (a former merchant of Salisbury - d. c1506) was married to Robert Callaway. The court case involved the shenanigans of William Dean, apparently an employee in Mistress Alice's shop in Salisbury. Robert Callaway gave a deposition in this case, stating that the heir to the shop was Mistress Alice Callaway's son, Thomas Byfleet. I am not sure which surname spellings were used in each incidence, so will revert to C/K for convenience.

At this point I began begging for a record (carved in stone) that our attorney friend, Robert (of Wards & Liveries) lived well into his 80's. A record was not forthcoming. But, if that is true, then Robert (W & L) would not be son of Mr Robert C/K & Mistress Alice Gover Byfleet C/K. However, the will of Robert (W & L) certainly does suggest that he was son of Robert & Mistress Alice. First, Robert (W & L) left a large bequest to his cousin, Francis C/K and a smaller bequest to Dame Anne, widow of Sir William (the 2nd one).

There were also bequests to some nephews:

1. Thomas Gawen, s/o William Gawen (who married Alice C/K). Was Alice a full sister of Robert (W & L), a daughter of Mr. Robert & Alice Byfleet C/K?

2. Thomas South [the Byfleet pedigree shows that John & Alice Gover Byfleet had a daughter, Agnes, who married a South. Thus, Agnes would be a half-sister of Robert (W & L).

If all the above is true, Robert (W & L) would have been born after John Byfleet's death, c1506, after which Mr. Robert C/K married John Byfleet's widow, Alice. The biographers of Robert (W & L) estimate his birth as in c1497, without giving source for the estimation. The biographers do suggest, however, that his father was Robert C/K, mayor of Salisbury.

After the Byfleet information appeared in KellChat, I received an email from Colin Byfleet. He told me that, today, there are only about 50 Byfleets living in the entire world. I don't doubt that. I spent hours one day at the SOG library, checking through indexes of all the English counties, looking for a Byfleet reference. Zilch! I finally found a pedigree from a Visitation of Hampshire (I believe). The sum total of my information on Byfleet comes from this pedigree, and the court case.

Back to Sir William C/K - the 1st Knight - it would now appear that among his children were Sir John C/K of Rockborne, Mr. Robert C/K and Anna who married John Aucher, along with the girls we already knew about. The William C/K alias Webb, mayor of Salisbury, may also fit in here - tho' I am always confused as to whether they carried the C/K or Webb Y chromosome. We should be watching for a Webb DNA project.

The 1st Sir William C/K was knighted in 1501, and was appointed Sheriff of Wiltshire in 1502. He died by 1508. We have no record showing how he acquired Rockborne - except possibly some rambling in the Victoria History of Hampshire. A "writ of diem clausit extremum," after his death, dated 1508, was directed to escheators of Wilts, Southampton, Somerset & Devon - and suggests he might have held extensive property [Calendar of Fine Rolls, Vol. XXII]; also a "mandate to the escheator of Devon to restore temporalities of the Benedictine Monastery of Shaftsbury to Elizabeth Shelford whose election as abbess is confirmed by E. Bishop of Salisbury, her fealty having been taken by the abbot of Milton & William Caleway, knight (the like to escheators of Somerset, Dorset, Wilts & Sussex)." [Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1494-1509]. In 1505, Will. Kaylwaye, mil., patron, presented Will Tanner, incumbent, Sutton Bingham [Somerset Incumbents, Weaver].

Bruce said it was time for me to "get up." I did! Good. This gives me a chance to throw out an item or two that have been bothering me. Who is Charles?

1602. Charles Keylway of St Saviours, Southwark, Surrey, capias (he sued Francis Keylewaye of Rogborne, Hampshire) [Wiltshire Extents for Debt].

1605. Charles Kellaway, gent., St Saviours, Southwark, Surey - Will [nuncupative]. Bequests to children (not named); wife was Maria [PCC Wills].

Was Charles a member of the Rockborne clan?

Hoping that Brian will chime in on all these matters with further elucidation.

Sherrill

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Sep 11, 2004
Subject: Sir William - 1st Knight

Sherrill,

Pending any advice from Brian, I am now a little sorry that I roused you from your slumbers as the whole mystery, with its inherent frustrations came flooding back! In an attempt to progress our search, I have been all afternoon googling with possibly only one vague result.

Eight miles north east of Sherbourne and thirty miles west of Salisbury lies the manor of Bratton Seymour. The manor, originally owned by Baron William Zouch passed after three generations to one John Dyer who was married to the widow Jane BYFLEET. Dyer died in 1559 and the manor passed to three generations of Byfleets from his widows first marriage. John (died 1620), Robert d.1641 and Thomas d.1652.

I merely mention this trivia as a marker for posterity as it appears likely that Mistress Alys (Alice) Gover Byfleet and widow Jane Byfleet Dyer were sisters-in-law and to

indicate how little I have to offer further on the two Sir William K/Cs. As for Charlie of St. Saviours. Wow! now I have to lie down. He'll have to wait until to-morrow.

Bruce

From: Brian Kelway Willoughby
Sent: Sep 11, 2004
Subject: Charles

Sherrill,

Great to hear from you again - VMT

I am afraid I definitely have 1st Knight nerves regarding Sir William - I really don't think I feel strong enough to re-examine the area (and particularly the Roberts) just at this moment! But some day I hope to be able to contribute something useful. (Getting a copy, Bruce, of your 11/09/04 0948 was rather a relief! - also VMT).

Meanwhile I tried picking up at least a finger or two of your Charles(s) gauntlet, Sherrill. Looking for "Charles" in my 16th &17th C records, I think I have located the sources and info at the end of your em - plus a few more small scraps, below. The usual caveats apply of course - chiefly apologies if nothing new.

Archaeologia Cantiana - Published by the Kent Archaeological Society Vol 74 1960 p205 Miscellaneous Notes.

Mary Lull married Charles Kellawaye on 22 November 1599 at St Saviour, Southwark. After Charles died the widow Mary became the second wife of Anthony Finch on 16 July 1607. Mary was buried in 1648 at Petworth, Sussex. Anthony Finch had issue by both of his wives.

Visitation of Sussex 1633-4 Harleian Soc Vol 53 p32 1905

The Dawtrey pedigree has Elizabeth d of Charles Kelloway of Rockborne, Southampton as second wife of Sir Henery Dawtrey of Moorhouse, Sussex. They appear to have married in c1630 - at the time of the Visitation they had one child, a son John Dawtrey.

Melksham Parish Registers

I had hopes, Sherrill, of impressing you with Charles Kellway, son of Thomas, bp29/12/1631 - until I found that you had given me the info in your letter of 07/12/01 !

Cornwall Hearth Tax 1660/64 - St Michael Penkevil Parish.

Charles Calliway

I think I'm rather surprised how few Charleses I seem to have, both pre and post-Commonwealth. Perhaps my own distributions are skewed for some other reason(s)?

Not very elucidatory, I fear!
Best wishes
Brian

From: Brian Kelway Willoughby
Sent: Sep 21, 2004
Subject: Cailly-sur-Eure and the two Caillouets

Herewith my Notes on my very brief visit (a few hours) to our part of Normandy on 04/06/04 - sorry for delay.

1 Locations

1.1 Caillouet (- Orgeville) (my “Caillouet I “). Located c 13 km [8 miles] due East of Evreux (itself 56 km [35 miles] due South of the centre of Rouen). The village lies a few 100 metres South of Rue Nationale N13.

1.2. Cailly-sur-Eure . Located c 13 km [8 miles] North of Evreux, on the East bank of the Eure, off the D71 road (and the larger N154 connecting Evreux and Rouen). (The Eure is a smaller river which joins the Seine in the southern outskirts of Rouen, and gives its name to the Departement of Eure (No 27).)

1.3. Caillouet (- le Mesnil Jourdain) (my “Caillouet II” - the hamlet of Caillouet - within the Commune of le Mesnil Jourdain - and a new candidate for our attention.) Located c 6 km [4 miles] WSW of Louviers (itself between Evreux and Rouen), just S of the D133 road.

1.4. Relative positions.As it happens all three places lie on a more or less straight line running SE to NW. Cailly-sur Eure lies near the centre, 15 km [10 miles] from Caillouet-Orgeville (to the SE), and 10 km [6 miles] from Caillouet-le Mesnil Jourdain (to the NW). (Caillouet-Orgeville and Caillouet-le Mesnil Jourdain are thus only about 25 km [16 miles] apart.)

1.5. Maps. The popular series of Pneu Michelin 1/200,000 maps (1 cm : 2 km) generally show Caillouet-Orgeville, Cailly-sur-Eure and le Mesnil Jourdain. The IGN (Institut Geographique National) Carte de Promenade Series at twice the scale (1/100,000) is more informative: Sheet 08 covers all three and specifically indicates Caillouet-le Mesnil Jourdain.

2. Caillouet (- Orgeville)

The village etc still looks rather uninteresting (I last visited it on 03/07/97). Evidently a purely agricultural community until the last few decades or so - cottages, barns etc are still being converted to relatively modest homes, perhaps some second homes.

I have seen little evidence yet of relevant “historical “ past, although there may be some there. (The village lies on an ancient Roman road). A modest church of indeterminate date (reconstructed?) - locked - I haven’t yet been inside, but would be surprised to find anything very noteworthy.

3. Cailly-sur-Eure

Large enough, with a population of 233, to be included in the Michelin Red Guide. Rather more prosperous. Just before the village entry sign on the D524 there is a big spread - clearly a lot of money involved - 100 metre entry drive - (two beautiful thoroughbred horses grazing) - long row of picturesque converted half-timbered farmhouse/barns etc lawn - patio - more outbuildings, some in ruins/not yet reclaimed/converted. On into the village - stopped at the Bar des Pecheurs for two Espressos (madame playing dominoes with three local men - not v welcoming) - past Auberge des Deux Lapins (Logis de France chain) - some big, expensive/attractive houses/gardens in road down to the river. Large rectangular building on other side of water - perhaps once a watermill on a tributary stream? Another similar building converted to a large house, with car, catamaran on lawn etc etc. Church - very much like Caillouet I - also locked. Several venerable half-timbered buildings in the Normandy style.

Definitely a “manorial/historical” feeling to the village.

4. Caillouet ( - le Mesnil Jourdain)

This Caillouet is a prosperous dormitory hamlet - with many smart conversions of old houses. No Church in the hamlet - the Parish Church is that of and at le Mesnil-Jourdain, c 1 km from Caillouet in a straight line - perhaps 3 km [2 miles] by the twisting country road). This Church turned out to be part of a fascinating and very attractive small complex of buildings.

The Church itself is relatively large and ancient - perhaps an Abbey at one time? The present structure apparently dates from the 15-16^th Centuries, but is almost certainly on the site of earlier buildings - needless to say it too was locked. Attached to the Church is a beautiful old Normandy house, le Manoir d’Hellenvilliers, containing a lot of very old half-timbering, stonework etc etc - certainly large enough and impressive enough to have been a local Manor for some centuries.

There is evidence that the Order of the Temple of Solomon was represented in this Caillouet with some sort of Seigneurie. (The Order was set up in 1118 and the Knights Templar were a major force in the Crusades (following the earlier example of Duke Robert of Normandy)). Apparently there is currently a "Pub Les Templiers" Bar/Discotheque in the village!.

5. Comments

I am interested and surprised to note that any official reference to “Caillouet” (ie without further qualification) seems invariably to refer to Caillouet - le Mesnil Jourdain, rather than to Caillouet - Orgeville.

This may be just the luck of the draw so far, but I am inclined to the idea that although (i) they are both within the Departement of Eure, and (ii) close to each other, and (iii) only Caillouet - Orgeville) is included in Michelin Maps, it is Caillouet - le Mesnil Jourdain which is in some way the “senior“.

And so my friends I propose Caillouet - le Mesnil Jourdain for our serious consideration and further study as a possible fons et origo of the C/K clan.

Any comments?

With Best Wishes (and sincere apologies for a very turgid paper - even for me!)

Brian

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Sep 22, 2004
Subject: Cailly-sur-Eure and the two Caillouets

Brian,

Very pleased to get your information. That second Caillouet must surely have some relevance, being located where it is. Maybe it was the first Caillouet, there again maybe there were always two.

I recall there is another Caillouet over in NE France, which appears to be of more recent origin. There may be others in the Country, but that new one must have some importance. If only we had better historical knowledge of the area. (Bill - I know you found some information)

When I was in Caillouet I, for about fourteen minutes, fourteen years ago, (not knowing anything about the other two), I recall thinking that I had found the right place. Caillouet itself though seemed to be virtually on the main road, while there was the other part a km or so away that looked more defined, and had the church. I later presumed this to be Orgeville.

I did note that the church was old, from the fenestration I suspected part possibly 14th century or earlier. Clearly extended at some stage, which is not unusual, the carved and locked doors had female figures with skullcaps that I felt could be 16th century, possibly older. These facts I thought were borne out by the meagre evidence we had of the area. Caillouet-Orgeville I understood to have quite early references.

Maybe there is more to the picture. It appears the church at Cailly-sur-Eure is similar. Support for a connection of some sort?

Your comments about the possible Abbey, Manor House and Knights Templar however raise some new issues about Caillouet II.

Strangely tonight I have just watched a couple of BBC programmes on the paranormal, and both had half timbered 14th and 15th century buildings. Presumably the French buildings could be of similar age, unless there was some later replication.

We have to realise however that it is unlikely that there would be any structures surviving from the 11th to 13th centuries, the period we are primarily concerned with.

The proximity of the two Caillouets seems most unusual, and either side of Cailly.

Is it possible we are looking at an early Abbey at le Mesnil Jourdain (can't think of any special meaning for the name), while the Cailly family home was at Cailly-sur-Eure - the Caillys were a very old family? As in Wiltshire, and Devon, it was common to have a church near the family manor, and also there were "younger houses" of the families, no doubt with their own churches. Were there two established near Cailly-sur-Eure, both given a similar diminutive version of the family name?

Yes we do need to know more about Caillouet-le Mesnil Jourdain.

Warwick

From: Philip Caillouet
Sent: Sep 22, 2005
Subject: Cailly-sur-Eure and the two Caillouets

Brian:

It sounds as though you had a very interesting trip, especially with the discovery of another place named “Caillouet.” As a person with that surname, I do thank you for making that discovery and for sharing the information! Two questions however: (1) Was the name spelled locally with a tréma or with any other diacritical mark? (2) How was the name pronounced locally?

For some years now, I have been building a (still small) collection of place names in France where persons with the name “Caillouet” live (or lived), were born or died or buried, or were married. Some of these names even came to my attention through the Callaway website. Some came through correspondence with living persons named “Caillouet.” Many are indeed clustered in Eure, but others are in Brittany, Normandy, and Poitou. None, alas for you, are from the era of the 11^th Century thus not likely to be helpful to you in connecting “Callaway” to “Caillouet.”

I’ve also done a bit of map searching for place names in France having something in common with the surname “Caillouet.” That means searching for “cail” words and “ouet” words. Southern Brittany has quite a number of place names ending in “ouet,” “ouët,” “oet,” “oët,” the meaning of which in Bretonne may be related to the French “ouest” (the English west). This, coupled with the way “Caillouet” was misspelled by royal notaries in New France (i.e., “Cayouette”), leads me to believe that in Brittany at least “Caillouet” was pronounced “Ky-you-wet” rather than Ky-you-way but you’ve heard that argument before.

The real purpose in my writing you is to ask if you have ever investigated another place I’ve found in my map searching: Have you ever noticed the place called “Chailloué” just north of Sées, which in turn is just north of Alençon on highway 138 in Orne, rather than Eure? It seems to me that “Chailloué” might be a closer match to pipe rolls entry “Chaillewai” than “Caillouet” would be. “Chailloué” would be pronounced “Ky-you-way,” would it not?

Philip Caillouet

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Sep 24, 2004
Subject: Caillouet

Bruce, Brian,

I totally agree that we should somehow make contact again with those French Librarians/Historians, probably now including whoever is available at Cailly-sur-Eure, which is where perhaps the key may lie.

As regards Chailloue, I really doubt it will be of much value - perhaps only of the red shrimp variety. I can only immediately recall the one use of our Ch (not the first, but admittedly the key one) in over 200 other English spellings, while even in France I suspect it may be something of an aberration. Looking at the French arms, I see those for Calloue (with acute), Callouet (with and without circumflex), Caillouey and Callouel, no Ch.

Is not the French pronunciation for Ch anyway SH-, not KAY- or KAI-/KYE (chemin de fer)? The -ETTE pronunciation we all know is incorrect.

We have a number of versions today ourselves - how did we get to Kelway/Kellaway/Callaway/Callow/Kellow? It has all happened in a very short time - about 8-900 years!

By all means have Philip follow it up, but not at the expense of the others, when all the evidence still points there.

Warwick

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Sep 24, 2004
Subject: Caillouet

Brian,

For some years Dr. Charles Wax Caillouet of Texas has been in hot dispute with us that the C/K surname could ever have derived from his. Charles who has a PhD in marine biology, and is very well respected in this field, has at times demanded that we withdraw all that has been published to support our theory. The fact that several acknowledged authorities on the 'Origin of English Surnames' do support our theory does not wash with him, and I respect that.

He has constantly used the argument of pronunciation of the name Caillouet which he maintains is KYE-OO-ETT. He has been vigorously supported by some remnants of the original Nova Scotian émigrés where the name is mostly spelt Caillouette, and dazzled me with the use of diacritics as proof that the trema on the 'e' meant that his name was originally spelt Caillouét hence the query to you by his second cousin Prof. Philip regarding the actual spelling and any pronunciation of the name heard by you on your recent visit.

I give this merely as background since so much work is again being done on identifying the source of the village. We had agreed a number of years ago to discount certain propositions, as such French scholars that we had access to tended to confirm that CAILL was pronounced KAY-A(il) and ET (with or without trema) was OO-AY .This is all old history and I have no intention of getting into it again.

Despite all the above, Philip's research should certainly not be discounted. Chailloué lies only about 90 miles SW of Evreaux, and I have to agree that it holds a strong resemblance both in spelling and (our) pronunciation of the entry in the Pipe Rolls.

Bruce

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Sep 28, 2004
Subject: Caillouet

Hi Brian

You have got us going again about Caillouet. It is so frustrating living down here in the Antipodes. In the past I have got a huge amount of information from the LDS, but never anything of much value on France.

You should have my note from late last night. There just has to be something there about Cailly-sur-Eure and the two Caillouets. It almost
seems, at this stage, that the French are confused themselves. Probably, as with us, no-one has actually got around to doing the research, and it would be difficult for us to access their documents, let alone any language peculiarities. The fact that there are two Caillouets so close together must have caused problems, hence their means of differentiation.

As with the others, I have never seen the "new" one, but the village sounds very interesting in itself. As you say, what appear to be medieval buildings must indicate a place of some import. If an Abbey, we could be looking at a foundation back to the 7-800s. There are records of the early abbeys. The "other" Caillouet was on a Roman Road, therefore possibly older, but it could also have grown on the road at some later date.
Cailly-sur-Eure would appear to be an original Viking settlement, but possibly after the Abbey.

All supposition, as is my suggestion that the evidence suggests the Cailli family was the principal family there, and the two villages possibly the homes of younger members - les Caillouets.

We are however getting scraps of the crossword, and slowly getting the real picture.
Best wishes
Warwick

From: Sherrill Williams
Sent: Oct 3, 2004
Subject: Warwickshire

Warwick mentioned Warwickshire in his last communication. Here are records of the C/Ks there from Access to Archives. Lot of action going on in Stratford!

SHAKESPEARE BIRTHPLACE TRUST RECORDS: Miscellaneous legal and official papers relating to WARWICKSHIRE [ER10/4/1 - ER10/12/37]

Coroners' Inquests and related papers:

Depositions: Mary Hopkins, wife of Nehemiah, Shipston-on-Stour; Edward Welchman Wright, Shipston-on-Stour, M.D., John Calloway, Shipston-on-Stour.

Date: 21 October 1850

Ref: ER10/5/487

Records of the reformed Borough of Stratford-upon-Avon:

Town Clerk's Office; Expired leases (and assignments and surrenders of same) of Corporation property:

Lessee or Asignee Joseph Calloway

Date: 21 Oct 1862

Ref: BRR10/158/44

Worcestershire Papers

Memorandum of Agreement between Edward Strickland, Coventry, druggest (on behalf of> Ref: DR 165/77

Client's papers = Newland, Mary

Draft of conveyance from Joseph Calloway of Snitterfield, estate agent and Mary his wife, and their mortgagee, Mary Newland of Stratford-Upon-Avon, spinster, to John Stokes Foster of Bentley, co. Staffs., esq., of an estated called the Oak Farms, Old Stratford.

Date: 23 January 1863

Ref: DR 165/419

William Buller:

Lease and release from Richard Houghton, Stratford-Upon-Avon, yeoman and Mary his wife, John Kemp Henley, innholder (mortgagee) to Philip Calloway, Stratford-upon-Avon, labourer, for #72.10s. of 2 cottates now in occupation of Richard Houghton who has rebuilt.

Date: 1 & 2 Nov 1776

Ref: DR 469/50/xii-xiv

Mortgage by Philip Calloway, Stratford-upon-Avon, labourer to William Jones, Stratford-upon-Avon, malster, for #70.

Date: 8 Nov 1776

Ref: DR 469/50/xv

Lease and release by Philip Calloway, Stratford-upon-Avon, labourer, with the consent of his mortgagee William Jones, to Samuel Hitchman, eht elder, Stratford-upon-Avon, labourer, for #90.

Date: 12 & 13 Nov 1777

Ref: DR 469/50/xvi-xvii

Assignment by William Boyce, Welford, Glos., yeoman (the mortgagee) at the request of Philip Calloway, Stratford-upon-Avon, labourer and Elizabeth his wife, nee Jordan to William Felton, Stratford-upon-Avon, yeoman, of mortgage on nos. 25-9 Waterside, originally mortgated by Boyce by indenture of 3 April 1778, for #40.

Date: 29 Jan 1791

Ref: DR 469/50/xx

Conveyance by Phillip Calloway, Stratford-upon-Avon, labourer and Elizabeth his wife, with consent of William Felton, Stratford-upon-Avon, labourer, the mortgagee, to William Carter, Stratford-upon-Avon, tailor, of nos. 26-29 Waterside for #76 (in occupation of Philip Calloway, William Morris, Thomas Marshall and John Savage).

Date: 23 Feb 1801

Ref: DR 469/50/xx

Charles Flower:

Bond of William Pearce, Stratford-upon-Avon, watch-maker and jeweller as surety for James and George Calloway for the performance of the above building contract.

Date: 14 Nov 1864

Ref: DR 469/148

Newland, Mary:

Conveyance by Mary Newland, Stratford-upon-Avon, spinster to Trustees (Rev. Granville John Granville, Vicar of Stratford-upon-Avon, Rev. Reginald John Hibbert, curate of Stratford-upon-Avon, John Worsey, Clopton and John Shailer, Stratford-upon-Avon, farmers (Churchwardens of the parish), John Bachelor and John Newland, Stratford-upon-Avon, grocers (churchwardens of borough), William Gibbs, Alveston, farmer and William Warrilow, Stratford-upon-Avon, schoolmaster, of recently erected cottages in Guild Street for the purposes of almshouses to be occupied by poor widows and spinsters of the borough and parish after the deaths of the present occupiers, viz. Thomas Maynoord, Mary Cooper, widow, Elizabeth Calloway, widow and Mary Hewins, widow. Plus #200 consols endowment.

Date: 1854 - 1858

Ref: DR 469/319

Buller, William:

Conveyance by Samuel Hitchman the younger, late of Neasden, now of North Mimms, Hertford, yeoman, to William Callaway, Stratford-upon-Avon, yeoman, for #44 of no. 30 Waterside in occupation of William Salter.

Date: 10 Nov 1808

Ref: DR 469/50/xxiii-xxiv

Lease and release William Callaway, Stratford-upon-Avon, yeoman, to William Buller, Stratford-upon-Avon, malster, for #53.5s. of no. 30 Waterside.

Callaway, Joseph:

Bundle of deeds relating to Oak Farm [which Callaway inherited under the will of John Gamaliel Lloyd, who died 4 January 1837]

Date: n/d c1840

Ref: DR 469/74/vii

'Particular Survey of Oak Farm....the property of Mr. Joseph Callaway'.

Date: 24 Dec 1874

Ref: DR 469/74/viii

Affidavit of William Butcher, Stratford-upon-Avon, hairdresser and Clerk to the Guild Chapel, as to the identity of Joseph Callaway, late of Snitter-field, gamekeeper, and of his son Joseph, farmer at Oak Farm, Old Stratford, now living in Australia.

Date: 24 Dec 1874

Ref: DR 469/74/viii

With certified extracts from registers of the marriage at Stratford-upon-Avon, 28 Dec 1821, of Joseph Callaway and Mary Whitehall and the baptism, 15 Dec 1822, of Joseph, son of Joseph and Mary Callaway.

Date: 5 March 1875

Ref: DR 469/74/ix

Succession duty account in real property of Joseph Callaway, Stuart Mill, Victoria, Australia, on the death, 4 February 1873, of Joseph Callaway, intestate. Delivered by John Callaway, Snitterfield, land steward.

Date: 5 March 1875

Ref: Same as preceding.

Flower, Charles Edward:

Contract between Charles Edward and Edgar Flower, Stratford-upon-Avon, common brewers and James and George Callaway, Stratford-upon-Avon, builders, for the erection of cottages in Brewery Street and Birmingham Road, Stratford-upon-Avon; accounts, plans and specifications drawn up by Thomas Taylor Allen, Stratford-upon-Avon, architect and surveyor.

Date: 14 Nov 1864

Ref: DR 469/148

II. Clients's papers

Arbuthnot, Reverend George:

Papers in the case of G. Arbuthnott v. Joseph Callaway for non-payment of debt of #20 lent for one year.

Date: 1896-7

Ref: DR325/397

Callaway, Albert Henry:

Papers relating to the bankruptcy of Albert Henry Callaway of Church Street, Stratford-upon-Avon, plumber and decorator.

Date: 1902

Ref: DR 325/615

Callaway, James and George:

Bill from J. & G. Callaway (late Ed. Gibbs), builders, of Stratford-upon-Avon.

Date: 1859

Ref: DR 325/616

Papers relating to the bankruptcy of James and George Callaway.

Date: 1873-74

Ref: DR 325/617

Callaway, John and Newton, Henry:

Papers in various cases brought by Lloyds Bank to recover overdraft deficits; clients include G. H. Saunders, W. E. Evans, veterinary surgeon; H. H. Bullard, antique dealer of Chapel Street; also papers relating to mortgages and other financial transactions of A. H. and E. K. Callaway; C. Chapple, J. V. Lill and Thomas Hutchings.

Date: 1880 - 1904

Ref: DR 325/1659

Papers relating to cases of prosecution for debt:

George Baker of Guild Street, stone and marble mason v. Callaway Brothers.

Date: 1898

Ref: DR 325/2655

Assignment by Thomas Forester of Lane Delph, Staffs., potter and Ann his wife formerly Furkins, sole executrix of William Jones and Philip Callaway of S/A, labourer and Elizabeth Callaway of mortgage [DR325/2576/17] in default of payment to William Boyce of Welford, yeoman.

Date: 3/4/1787

Ref: DR 325/2756/18 [note: there may be an error in one of the reference numbers; not mine tho', I copied as was].

Affidavits and declarations:

Draft declaration by Joseph Calloway of Old Stratford, gent., that the late George Lloyd of Welcombe Lodge, esq., never married.

Date: 2 November 1855

Ref: DR 574/714

Miscellaneous papers:

Appointment of Elizabeth Sarah Burman of Stratford-upon-Avon, widow, of a proxy in proceedings by the creditors of James Calloway and George Calloway of Stratford-upon-Avon, builders.

Date: 14 September 1855

Ref: DR 574/796

Stratford-upon-Avon: borough

Evesham Place:

Conditions of sale, and plan, of Poors Close, with draft conveyances of Lots 4 and 5 (fronting Evasham Place and Broad Walk) from the trustees of the municipal charities to George Whately of Stratford-upon-Avon, builder (3 January 1898); and to Albert Henry Callaway and Ernest James Callaway of Stratford-upon-Avon, builders, (3 January 1898), with..........

Date: 1898 - 1906

Ref: DR 149/24

Old Stratford: - Miscellaneous

Draft conveyance from Albert Henry Callaway and Ernest James Callaway, both of Stratford-upon-Avon, builders, to Frederick James Warr of Stratford-upon-Avon, commercial clerk, of a house in Evesham Place, Stratford-upon-Avon, 31 May 1899 (with particulars of sale, 7 April 1899)

Date: 1847-1899

Ref: DR 149/84

Albert Henry and Ernest James Callaway of Stratford-upon-Avon, builders.

Date: 1897

Ref: DR 149/91

Collection of miscellaneous draft leases - Stratford-upon-Avon:

Land, building plots; architect, Albert Callaway

Date:

Ref: [see below]

Haselor:

Proposed house for Mr. A. Goulbourne; architect, A. H. Callaway,Stratford-upon-Avon.

Date: 1924

Ref: DR 430/166

Walford-on-Avon:

Proposed additions to house for Mrs. A. T. Montague; architect, Albert H. Callaway.

Date: 1922

Ref: DR 430/203

Robert Lunn and Lowth, Stratford-Upon-Avon, Solicitors:

Callaway, Albert Henry and Ernest James. Sale particulars, inter alia for building land in Evesham Place purchased by John Harris, Stratford-upon-Avon, builder from Albert Henry Callaway and Enrest James Callaway, Stratford-upon-Avon, builders, with draft deed, 1900, and abstract of title.

Date: 1897-1902

Ref: DR 27/86

Callaway, Albert Henry and Ernest James

Authorization by Albert Henry Callaway to Hutchings & Deer to sell household effects at 7 Church Street, Stratford-upon-Avon and pay proceeds to Robert Lunn.

Date: 14 August 1902

Ref: DR 27/87

Callaway, James and George

Official notice of meeting of creditors of James and George Callaway, builders, to be held 8 July 1874 at the Falcon Inn, Stratford-upon-Avon.

Date: 1874

Ref: DR 27/88

Sale particulars for premises in High Street and Ely Street, sold by liquidators of James and George Callaway.

Date: 1874

Ref: DR 27/89

Abstract of title, 1865, to 14 and 15, 26-8 High Street and premises behind in Ely Street [no. 60], 1798-1842, with plan, transfer of mortgage on nos. 27-8 by the mortgagees of Mesrs. James and George Callaway to Rev. Henry L. Freer, Mansergh, Westmoreland, 1872; notice to Henry Walter Newton from John Smith to determine lease of no. 27 in 1893.

Date:1798-1893

Ref: DR 27/90

Hartley, Mary Ann:

Draft conveyance from John Bruce of Tiddington to Mary and Jane Hartley of Stratford-upon-Avon, spinsters, 25 March 1876, of Ivy Cottage, [no. 53] Rother Street (see DR/27/583), with abstract of title, dated 1891, of Mary Ann Hartley, 1876-83, and schedule of documents, 1812-91, when it was sold to Mary Callaway.

Warwickshire Papers

Tysoe:

Draft release by Thomas Aynge, Lower Tysoe, butcher, to Robert Ashby, Church of Upper Tysoe, baker and malster, of one fourth part of an estate in Tysoe (held by virtue of his marriage to Ann Callow, one of the 4 daughters and joint co-heiresses of Thomas Callow, deceased) for #140 subject nevertheless to 2 mortgages (1) 6 June 1799 to Richard Wheatcroft and Thomas King for #80, and (2) to Edward Calloway for #100.

Date: 4 April 1801

Ref: ER 12/74/15

Archive of Gage family of Firle

Minutes of Manor Courts (Manor of Berwick with Hailsham):

Surrender by Thomas Calloway to the use of his will.

Date: 10 Mar 1784

Ref: SAS/G20/185

Warrant:

By Mary Alchome to vacate a conditional surrender by Thomas Calloway to her late husband.

Date: 6 Apr 1784

Ref: SAS/G20/186A

Minutes of a special court:

Death of Thomas Calloway who held a messuage and 3a. near the Dicker, quitrent 12d; admission of Samuel Calloway under TC's will of 6 Mar 1784 and surrender to the use of Philip Elen of Arlington, yeoman.

Date: 6 Apr 1784

Ref: SAS/G20/186B

Records of the Stratford-Upon-Avon Corporation

Records of the Borough Vestry - Records of Poor Law Administration:

Bastardy papers, Mother = Sarah Turner, Father = Thomas Calloway, trade = Labourer. Other details: daughter born 11/7. Document: Order

Date: 15.8.1812

Ref: BRT8/255/f.1

Records of the Old Stratford Parish Vestry

Old Stratford and Drayton Valuation Lists:

Old Stratford Settlement papers. Parish of Settlement = Alveston; Parish of arrival = Old Stratford; Name - John Calloway, Family = Susannah; William 8, John 6, Thomas 4, Richard 2. Document: Removal

Date: 8.6.1791

Ref: BRT9/189/37

Stratford-upon-Avon: Clopton:

Statements of Joseph Callway [of Oaks Farm] as to his career with George Lloyd, John Gamalliel Lloyd (under whose will he was substantial legatee) and C. T. Warde. Denies any ill-feeling between them.

Date: 1847

Ref: ER11/32/108

Wheler Papers (1886-1894), London:

Extract from a rental of the College of Stratford-upon-Avon, including the names of the members, viz. Anthony Barker 'gardianus', Edward Alcocke, 'subgardianus', John Callway, 'Cantor', Richard Sharpe, 'doctor puerorum', Richard Bedell, Roger Dyos 'cur[atus]', Thomas Clarke 'Presbiter', John Endisdale 'Cantor'. With thenote "Thes was had from Auditor Kynges office, 16 May 1609. Tho. Greene'

Date: 1287-1700

Ref: ER1/1/59

Miscellaneous Deeds and Papers:

Indenture of fine between John Wagstaffe, plaintiff, and Philip Calloway and Elizabeth his wife and Richard Haynes and Sarah his wife, deforciants, concerning premises in Stratford-upon-Avon and Temple Grafton.

Date: April 1778

Ref: ER 3/459

Conveyance by lease and release from Philip Calloway and wife to Thomas Mayneard of two houses in Waterside, Stratford-upon-Avon.

Date: 27 & 28 May 1791

Ref: ER 3, 460

Assignment of the residue of a mortgage term of 1000 years as to two houses in Stratford: William Felton the mortgagee by direction of Philip Calloway and wife to Mr. David Weston, in trust for Thomas Mayneord, the purchaser.

Date: 28 May 1791

Ref: ER3/461

Abstracts of Title:

Abstract of title to a tenement in Waterside, Stratford-upon-Avon, commencing with a conveyance dated 28 May 1791, from Philip Callaway of Stratford-upon-Avon, labourer, and Elizabeth his wife, late Elizabeth Jordan, spinster to Thomas Maynard, labourer, and ending with the will dated 10 April 1821 of T. Maynard, followed by receipts.

Date: 28 May 1791 to 10 April 1821

Ref: ER 4/35 [also see ER 4/511]

Draft abstract oif title (1874) of Lloyds Banking Co. Ltd., to two messuages etc. in High Street, Stratford-upon-Avon, commencing with a mortgage dated 3 September 1867, from James Callaway and George Callaway, both of Stratford-upon-Avon, builders to Joseph Callaway of Snitterfield, land agent, and ending with a memorandum of deposit, dated 24 June 1871, signed by Joseph Callaway.

Date: 3 September 1867 to 24 June 1871.

Ref: ER 4/826

Abstract of title to land in the parish of Old Stratford, commencing with an indenture, dated 7 May 1834, between John Milward of Whitchurch, gent., and others and Thomas Lea of Henley-in-Arden, esq., and ending with a conveyance, dated 24 March 1838, from William Welch Lea of Henley-in-Arden, gent., and Joseph Calloway.

Date: 7 May 1834 to 24 March 1838

Ref: ER 4/614

Requisitions ontitle of William Bartlett Oakes to property in Stratford-upon-Avon, contracted to be sold to James Calloway and George Calloway of Stratford-upon-Avon, builders.

Date: 22 November 1865

Ref: ER 4/933

Solicitors' deposits from the offices of Frederick Lane and Thomas Hunt, acquired in 1896:

Draft conveyance from Joseph Callaway of Oak Farm in the parish of Old Stratford, gent. and Mary his wife, to the Reverend Richard Davis of Coughton, of land in Old Stratford.

Date: 5 April 1850

Ref: ER 3/1504

Draft agreement between Joseph Callaway of Oak Farm in the parish of Old Stratford, gent., and James Cox the younger of the same parish, timber merchant, for purchase of land in the parish of Old Stratford.

Date: 21 January 1850

Ref: ER 3/1617

Draft deed of covenant from Joseph Callaway of Oak Farm in the parish of Old Stratford, gent., to the Reverend Richard Davis of Coughton, and others, for the production of title deeds.

Date: 5 April 1850

Ref: ER 3/1774

Building plans for Stratford-upon-Avon and the neighbouring district from the offices of Smith and Unett, builders, of Stratford-upon-Avon [Warwickshire builders].

Evasham Road:

Proposed house for Messrs. Smith and Unett; architect, Albert Callaway.

Date: 1923

Ref: DR 430/38

Loxley Road:

Proposed bungalows for Messrs. Smith & Unett; architect, Albert Callaway.

Date: 1923

Ref: DR 430/49

Bungalow for Mrs. M. E. Cox; architenct, Albert Callaway.

Date: 1924

Ref: DR 430/51

Bungalow for Robert C[harles] H[enry] Jeffries; architect, Albert Callaway.

Date: 1925

Ref: DR 430/52

Bungalow for Robert H. C. Jeffries; architect, Albert Callaway.

Date: 1925

Ref: DR 430/53

Warwick Road:

From Joseph Callaway of Rowley House, Old Stratford, to Edward Fordham Flower of The Hill, Old Stratford; Rowley House and adjoining lands.

Date: 1858

Ref: DR 149/155/71

Miscellaneous legal and official papers relating to Warwickshire:

Quarter Sessions papers:

Brief for prosecution in Regina (Joseph Calloway, the younger, Old Stratford, constable) v. Stephen Day, Old Stratford, labourer and Emma his wife for keeping a bawdy house in bull Lane.

Date: 1858

Ref: ER 10/2/362

Subpoena to Ann Harrop, Hannah Whiteman and George Callaway in Regina v. John Adams.

Date: 1839

Ref: ER 10/2/404

Instructions for indictments in Regina (Samuel Shephard, Alderminster) v. Samuel Brown for theft of 2 shovels, and Regina (Joseph Calloway the younger, Constable, Old Stratford) v. Stephen Day and Emma Day his wife for keeping a bawdy house.

Date: 1858

Ref: ER 10/2/420

Warwickshire County Court: Stratford Sessions:

Account, notice of plaint and brief for plaintiff, Joseph Callaway, Oak Farm v. James Field of Little Alne, cattle dealer, for storage of lambs. Judgement for plaintiff.

Date: 21 Mar 1861

Ref: ER 11/3/54

Account, brief for plaintiff, notice of payment into court in William George Frederick Bolton, Luton, yeoman v. James Callaway, Stratford-upon-Avon, builder, for spirits supplied and car hire.

Date: 25 Oct 1866

Ref: ER 11/3/73

Stratford-upon-Avon Borough Court:

Complaint of Charlotte Callaway, widow v. William Sharshaw, labourer, Elizabeth his daughter and George his son for molestation and ill-treatment in the street.

Date: 19 June 1818

Ref: ER 11/13/11

Examination of James Callaway as to his settlement. Removed to Old Stratford.

Date: 18 November 1824

Ref: ER 11/13/64

Complaint of John Payton, Assistant Overseer v. James Callaway for leaving his family chargeable.

Date: 16 November 1824

Ref: ER 11/13/66

Information of Joseph Callaway, Clopton, yeoman v. William Biddle, stone mason, for using a gun to kill game.

Date: 8 Aug 1832

Ref: ER 11/13/230

Deeds relating to Stratford:

Wood Street:

Extracts from Stratford registers of burials of Richard Wheatcroft on 14 August 1820 and Philip Callaway on 5 December 1815.

Date: 1844

Ref: ER 11/23/106

Stratford-upon-Avon: Commerce:

Assignment by Luke Jesson Sharp, Birmingham, accountant (Trustee of the estate of James Callaway, builder, bankrupt) to Henry Walter Newton, ironmonger, of Assurance policy on the life of the said James Callaway, issued by the City of Glasgow Life Asurance Co.

Date: 27 Oct 1874

Ref: ER 11/26/57

Stratford-upon-Avon - Clopton:

Robert James Atty, Ingon Grange, esq., James Beech, Brandon, J.P; Rev. William Barrett, curate of Stratford-upon-Avon; William Burman, S/A, esq., Rev. John Clayton, Vicar of Stratfrod-upon-Avon, Rev. Donald Cameron, Vicar of Snitterfield, William Dickins, Cherrington, esq., John Branston Freer, S/A, J. P., D. L.; Bernard Granville, Wellesbourne, J. P., Darwin Galton, Edstone House, Wootton Wawen, J. P., William Judd Harding, Baraset House, Alveston, J. P., Edward Bolton King, Umberslade, J. P.; Rev. John Lucy, Rector of Hampton Lucy; Purefoy Lloyd, Leamington, spinster; Jevon Perry, Goodrich House, Hereford, esq., Frederick Pritchard, S/A, surgeon; Thomas George Skipwith, Newbold Hall, esq; Gustavus Thomas Smith, Goldicote House, esq., Henry Smith, Snitterfield, esq., Rev. Thomas Warde, Leamington (father of T. C. Warde), James Roberts West, Alscot Park, esq., Edward Walhouse, late Capt. 12th Regt. of Foot; William Brown, Almshouses, S/A; John Bevington, Welcombe, gardener, and Mary Bevington, wife of John; Richard Callaway, Welcombe, gamekeeper to C. T. Warde; Henry Dunkley, Red Lion Square, Middx., Henry Fry, Luton Park, Beds., gamekeeper; Elizabeth Hodgkins, wife of William, labourer, S/A; Ann Hodgkins, S/A, daughter of Elizabeth, aged 11; Mercy Houghton, S/A, spinster; Elizabeth Lock, S/A, wife of William Lock, labourer; Mary Lakin, Clo

pton House, cook; James Liggins, Clopton House, butler; Maria Roberts, S/A, spinster, Ann Redman, Clopton House, maid; Mary Smith, S/A, widow, midwife; Thomas Williams, S/A, gardener. [no clue what this is about....SUW]

Date: 1847

Ref: ER 11/32/56

George Finch to [J] Callaway, Oak Farm, S/A, enclosing Ann Parsons' affidavit. Mr. Lane should only be engaged upon the divorce in the first instance.

Date: 1 Nov 1847

Ref: ER 11/32/70

Draft affidavit of Emma Callaway, spinster, daughter of Joseph, Oak Farm, S/A, farmer.

Date: 1847

Ref: ER 11/32/72

Draft affidavit of Joseph Callaway, Oak Farm, near Stratford, farmer, former bailiff to George and John Gamaliel Loyd of Welcombe and legatee under the will of latter, also fomerly baillif to C. T. Warde.

Date: Dec 1847

Ref: ER 11/32/77

Sherrill [typing errors excepted]

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Oct 11, 2004
Subject: Dorset 1500-1600

DORSET 1500-1600

Dewlish and the Isle of Wight Connection

From pre 1600 English Records, compiled by Sherrill U Williams.

Dewlish:

1525 Edward Kaylewey M - taxed for goods

1525 John Kelway M - taxed for wages

1525 Robert Kayle M - taxed for goods

1542 John Kaylow M - Muster Roll

1542 Robert Keyle M - Muster Roll

1542 Thomas Cayle M - Muster Roll

1545 Thomas Kaylle M - taxed for goods

1545 John Callowe - taxed for goods

There is no evidence as yet of the origin of the Dewlish family.

However Dewlish is in the heart of Dorset, close to most of the recorded locations of the C/K family, from Calawe Weston in the 1200s, through Sherborne in the 1400s.

As all of these men were from Develysche (Dewlish?) Manor, the name differences presumably disguise the same family.

Being a manor, it could be assumed Develysche was a C/K family property before 1525.

As John and Robert appear in 1525, and 20 years later, they were presumably born around 1490-1500. Edward possibly around 1480, Thomas more likely about 1515-20.

The “goods” would presumably mean merchandise of some sort, very likely wool.

John possibly working for Edward and Robert at the earlier date, was perhaps itinerant?

Thomas, who may have some relevance on the Isle of Wight, was evidently living at the manor in 1542-5.

Milborne St Andrew (2km from Dewlish):

1525 Edward Kayleway Taxed for goods

1525 Richard Kaylway Taxed for wages

1542/5 Edward Cayleway Taxed for goods

1542 John Caylewey Muster Roll

1542 Richard Caylewey Muster Roll

1545 Richard Kaylewaye Taxed for goods

1545 John Kayleway Taxed for goods

1580 John Keyleway b

1583 Thomas Kaileway c - Father William

1583 Thomas Kellway b

1587/8 Henry Kellway c - Father William

1588 Arthur Kellway c

1594 Thomas Kellway c - Father William

1595 John Kellway m - Alice Eyers

1596 Thomas Kellway b

The 1525 Edward, Richard and John were almost certainly closely related, born also around 1490-1500.

It could also be assumed that Edward from Dewlish was the same man as Edward from Milborne, possibly moving from the Develysche Manor to Milborne between 1525 and 1545. Possibly the senior, and father of Richard and John, also of Robert and Thomas from Dewlish. The two Johns could have been cousins.

There are no BDM records available for Dewlish at that time, and it appears that the remainder of the family might have left the manor some time after 1545, for elsewhere, but they were not recorded in Milborne.

There apparently was also a William in Milborne, born around 1560, with two sons named Thomas, neither of whom may have survived.

Again Edward appears as the merchant. Richard initially was working for wages.

The names are more recognisable.

Mappowder (10km from Dewlish):

1539 Peter Keyleway Muster Roll

Milton Abbas (3km from Dewlish and Milborne):

1542 Peter Cayleway Muster Roll

Mappowder and Milton Abbas are both close to Dewlish.

Whether or not location is relevant to the families there, it appears that Peter, born perhaps about 1515, did live nearby, and moved from Mappowder to Milton Abbas.

He also presumably held property to be included on the Muster Roll.

While there remains no clear evidence as to who these men were, Melcombe Bingham, or Binghams Melcombe, is also only about 3km from Dewlish, Milton Abbas and Mappowder. The name suggests it may have been one of the properties inherited from the Bingham family in the early 1400s, as therefore may have been Develysche Manor.

The first Sir William of Rockborne c1440-1507 was said to have had brothers Peter and Thomas, neither of whom have families recorded elsewhere.

The descendants of William of Stalbridge c1495, son of Thomas c1470 and brother of Robert, included Thomas, Richard, Peter, Henry and William – all names included above.

THE ISLE OF WIGHT

It is known that the C/K family was on the Isle of Wight in the 1500s.

Among the recorded listings are:

Earliest listing, in Poll Tax Lay Subsidy Roll:

1357-78 Christine Colway Husbandman

Northwood:

1522 John Calaway Labourer

Freshwater:

1557Thomas Callaway Husbandman

1588 Henry Keleway m – Margery Eaton

Thorley:

1573 Thomas Callaway Husbandman

1592 Thomas Callawaie Taxed for goods

1597/8 Thomas Callawaye b - Will

Agnes Callawaye Widow

Elizabeth Callawaye Daughter

Edward Callawaye Brother

Thomas Callawaye Brother

John Callawaye Son of brother Thomas

Thomas was born c1543 in Dewlish Dorset.

He has been specifically recorded, was presumably of some import, and therefore could be assumed to have been the son of one of the three men listed in Dewlish at that time – Thomas, John or Richard - possibly the grandson of Edward.

A John was on the IOW in 1522 – but a labourer?

To have a brother Thomas was not unusual. William of Stalbridge, born about the same time as the Dewlish men, marrying twice, had two sons named Thomas.

Brading:

1574 John Calaway m – Elizabeth Neet

Was he related to Thomas – another brother?

Newport:

1581 Richard Callaway c – Father Thomas

1581 Thomas Callaway m – (Agnes?) Dapernell

Presumably the family of Thomas of Thorley, although Richard was not in his will.

Godshill:

1584 John Calaway b – Will

Was he the son of Sir John?

There is no defined evidence of connection between these families in Dorset and the Isle of Wight, apart from Thomas being born in Dewlish, and no evidence of association later, but it seems likely that the family retained some connection, even into the 1800s.

It also seems possible that the Dewlish family was descended from the brothers of the first Sir William, thereby explaining to some extent how the grandsons of Sir William, the sons of Sir John, John and Henry, served on the island around 1545.

John remaining at Godshill.

Warwick Kellaway
October 2004

From: Brian Kelway Willoughby
Sent: Oct 14, 2004
Subject: Kelway Statue - Exton Church, Rutland/Leicestershire

Bill
Sorry for delay(s).

The tomb/memorial is of our mutual friend, Robert Kelway, the Wards and Liveries man who died 21 Feb 1580.

The Leicestershire and Rutland Volume of Nikolaus Pevsner’s series - The Buildings of England - has a little info (pp280/281), and includes a photo of the complete Kelway Monument (p54).

The alabaster figure of Robert K, in legal robes, is particularly fine - as are the three others. The adult female figure in the right foreground (and the subject of your www ref) is Robert’s daughter Anne (b c1551), the wife of John Harington.

The male figure in the left foreground is that John Harington, who apparently had this monument erected in memory of his father-in-law.

The small girl figure tucked in behind Anne (not quite visible in your ref) is a child of John and Anne (but it is not clear whether she is Lucy or Frances Harington).

The two corners above the main arch of the monument each contain a Coat of Arms, with some very complex heraldry in which the Kelway Arms are prominent. In principle the complete Arms should/just might enable us to identify positively the origins of this Robert Kelway.

The centre of the arch has a typically fulsome inscription in Latin - which includes some nice declensions of the name - Keylwey/Keylweiium/Keylweii/Keylweyo!

Elsewhere in Exton Church is a Harington Monument, to another John (d 1524) and his wife Alice, perhaps the parents of the above John.

Finally, I have a soft spot for the Harington family - one Sir John Harington invented in 1594 a very passable water-closet which Queen Elizabeth had installed in her Palace at Richmond - thus anticipating the legendary Thomas Crapper by nearly three centuries!

All the best
Brian

From: Sherrill Williams
Sent: Oct 13, 2004
Subject: Dorset 1500-1600

Bruce, Warwick,
I've been reading the mail and trying to absorb the trend Warwick is setting regarding Dewlish. This brings up the problem of the "manor records." Do any survive for Dewlish? If so, where are they? The manor records deposited at Somerset RO are one of the reasons for our success in tracing the C/Ks in that county. Many manor records remain in private hands, mainly in those families who managed to maintain some status into modern times. Many such records have decayed for lack of care; some probably went into the trash. Some may be filed with solicitors, and some are just hidden away in libraries, records offices and other places. What family held the manor at Dewlish? I suppose the clue is in those who paid taxes on the Land on the subsidy rolls. I will look into that. The manors held court, and you find your people mentioned in those; also, the various leases, copyholds, etc. are recorded there, as well as subsidy rolls and such. Much of this information never made it into crown or civil records.

The huge problem that I see is in following the families from the medieval period, when we have records, into the more modern times, as the family goes into decline. There is a gap there that is hard to bridge, the parish registers being the only real link between the eras - and those often have gaps. Oh well, we will keep digging and muddling through and searching for the manor records and any other obscurities we might find.

I will say one more thing. The Devon family that I have labeled the "Tavistock C/Ks" though they are all over the place in that part of Devon and the Cornwall border, surely must come from the family we recognize as the Stoford/Stafford C/Ks. Not all of that family became Staffords - there were others, surely, who retained the C/K name, and John of Cullompton belongs with them also. They are all in the area around Ufculme and the Torringtons where the Stafford/C/Ks ruled. Anyone disagree about this?

I'll be back.

Sherrill

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Oct 14, 2004
Subject: Kelway Statue - Exton Church, Rutland/Leicestershire

Brian,

I think you may have something there.

We have been struggling hard for some time to get some sense out of Robert and his family links. Without success.

If it is possible to determine the detail of his COA, we may just get somewhere. I do not know the quarterings involved, but there must be clues there of his family.

He clearly had arms, claimed relationship to the Rockborne family at least, and acted legally on behalf of the older family.

We know the arms of some of the others.

Two thoughts I have are, how many quarterings did he display - possibly the lesser number, the closer relationship, and are there any chevrons with leopards faces?

I still think the chevron version, as seen at Dolton, and shared by other C/K families, was the older (pre 1500) COA.

Was that famous appliance padded - perhaps with ermine?

Warwick

From: Sherrill Williams
Sent: Oct 15, 2004
Subject: Edwards

I was delighted to see that Warwick had pulled out my "index" and begun to explore the EDWARD references. I had also picked up on Warwick's Edward and had started down the same trail. It's the "great minds" thing, again!

After checking T. L. Sloat's Dorset Subsidies, I have concluded that we have 2 different Edwards, both on the 1525 subsidy rolls - one at Dewlish and the other at Milborne St Andrew. I read the Introduction to Sloat's published work and seem to recall that an individual was only taxed at one place, that being where his land or goods were of the highest value. Also, the landowner was not necessarily taxed for his land, but instead his "goods" if they were of higher value. I will pull out my microfiche of this and re-read the very detailed Introduction so that we have our facts correct, and do not make false assumptions.

The 1525 subsidy roll for Dewlish [manor of Develysche]includes Edward Kaylwey being taxed for Goods - 3; John Kaylwey assesed for Wages -1. Robert Kayle is there assessed for Goods - 14. The Lord of the Manor was probably Thomas Baskett = L - 20.

In 1545, Devylische, Edward is missing, but we have John Callowe assessed for Goods - 2. Robert Kayle is also missing, but probably his widow "Jane Kaylle wid" assessed for Goods - 5 and Thomas Kaylle for Goods - 5. On this assessment Thomas Baskett, Esq. is assessed for Goods - 100, and Thomas Morton, Esq. is assessed for Land - 60.

Unfortunately the surviving parish registers for Dewlish begin in 1616 and we have only 2 references of much later dates:

1642 Joane Kelway d/o Raphe bapt. March 14

1791 Elizabeth Kellaway of Blandford St. Mary & Richard Galpin (banns only) mar. May 8.

These probably came from transcriptions in Dorset RO.

The other Edward is in Milborne St. Andrew 1525. Before getting into that I will mention for Warwick that also in 1525, Puddletown Hundred, Tolpuddle is JAMES PURCHAS* whose assessment is G - nil. The * indicates an "alien"; Purchas was "Norman." Generally the aliens were not assessed for taxes.

Also in Puddletown Hundred, Milborne St. Andrew is

Edward Kaylwey assessed for Goods - 20 and Richard Kaylwey assessed for Wages - 1. Edward K. has the highest assessment on this list, so it is possible that he has right to a piece of ground here (no one is assessed for land), but his income is higher from his Goods (commodities produced).

In 1545, Milborne St Andrew tithing, Edward Kaylwaye is assessed for Goods - 15 and John Kaylwaye is assessed for Goods - 10. These are the 2 highest assessments on the list. Also on this list is Richard Kaylwaye Goods - 1 and John Kaylwaye jun. Goods - 1.

The Milborne St Andrew surviving parish registers begin in 1570, too late to bury Edward, but no doubt he died here. I think we will find John, John, Jr. and Richard buried here.

Burials:

1580 John Keyleway buried April 18

1581 Elizabeth Kellway buried March 16

1583 Thomas Kellway buried Oct 7

1584 Ann Kellway buried June 7

1594 Richard Kellway buried Feb 23

1596 Thomas Kellway buried July 3

1597 Joane Kellway buried Oct 3

1599 Christian d/o John Kellway buried May 25

1605 Alice d/o John Kellway buried June 2

1605 Joane Kellway ye Kinswoman of William Kellway buried Feb 10

1609 Joanna Kelway, widow, buried April 11

1613 Thomas s/o John Kellway buried Oct 3

1620 John Kellaway buried April 14

1621 William Kellaway buried April 19

1622 Christian Kellaway buried May 12

1622 Avice Kellaway buried Jan 2

1623 Agnes Kellaway buried Dec 14

1638 William Kellaway buried Jan 19

1638 Francis Kellaway buried Feb 17

Marriages (1570-1812)

1586 Mary Kellwaye & Wolston Gray md. Oct 8

1586 Agnes Kellway & John Palmer md. Oct 15

1592 Ellener Kellway & Wm Phippett md. Oct 14

1595 John Kellway & Alice Eyers md. Oct 21

1601 George Kellway & Avis Roberts md. Oct 1

1605 John Kellwaye & Christian [no surname] his wife md. Sept 29

1607 Magdalen (d/o William Kelwaye) & Stephen Swetlain [Swetlem] md. Jan 28

Baptisms (1570-1812):

1581/2 Elzth d/o William Kailewaye bapt Feb 27

1583 Thomas s/o William Kellway bapt Sept 14

1584 Robert bastard s/o Elenor Kellaway bapt April 20

1585/6 Jone d/o Wm Kellway bapt Jan 27

1587/8 Henry s/o Wm Kellway bapt Feb 17

1588 Arthur Kellway bapt May 14

1590 Margarett d/o Wm Kellway bapt Nov 1

1593 Magdalen d/o Wm Kellway bapt Oct 20

1594 Thomas s/o Wm Kellway bapt May 12

1599 Christian d/o John Kellway bapt May 7

1599 Mary d/o John Kellway bapt June 24

1600 Agnes d/o John Keylwaye bapt Nov 18

1602 William & Eve s & d/o George Keylwaye bapt Aug 1

1603 Mr. William Keylway signs as Churchwarden

1603/4 Thomas s/o John Keylwaye bapt Feb 5

1605 Alice d/o John Kellwaye bapt June 2

1606 Mary d/o John & Christian Kellwaye bapt Sept 4

1609/10 John s/o John Kellwaye bapt Jan 17

1612/13 Edmund s/o John Kellwaye bapt Jan 29

1635 Joan d/o William Kelway bapt April 19

Baptisms (1813-1837):

1817 Mariane Kellaway d/o John (yoeman) & Rebecca bapt June 20

It is curious, but interesting, the the name EDWARD did not carry down in this line.

That is all I have on Milborne St Andrew, so far. There is not yet an OPC for this parish. Hopefully someone will soon volunteer for this parish and make additional information available. Dewlish does not have an OPC yet, either.

Sherrill

From: Brian Kelway Willoughby
Sent: Oct 15, 2004
Subject: Exton Church and Robert Kelway

Hi Warwick and Bruce

Many thanks for your enthusiastic responses. I'm still not sure that I feel strong enough to take the initiative in tackling Robert Wards and Liveries - but I shall be very happy to contribute to a team effort!

First, let me try to get a decent picture, and/or more detail of the coat(s) of arms on Robert's Monument. (Unfortunately I can't simply drive the odd 150 miles and take some photos because - a terrible damned nuisance - my driving licence has been withdrawn again on the strength of a very brief blackout while we were in Normandy in June! I am allowed to re-apply on the first anniversary, given a clear record till then.)

Second, is everyone aware of some very relevant material published in '81/'82 by the HMSO for the History of Parliament Trust? The three relevant volumes are:

The House Of Commons 1509-1588 by S T Bindoff. I Appendices, Constituencies, Members A-C (pp230/231)

The House Of Commons 1509-1588 by S T Bindoff. II Members D-M. (pp458/459)

The House Of Commons 1558-1603 by P W Hasler. II Members D-L. (pp389/390)

These papers have a lot of info about, in their terms,

Robert Keilway I (by 1483-1537 or later) - Mayor of Salisbury 1515-1516 - MP for Salisbury 1523

Robert Keilway II (by 1517-1581) - evidently our man - Inner Temple Bencher etc etc - MP for Bristol 1545, 1547, etc etc

Francis Keilway (d 1602) of Rockbourne - Lymington 1586 etc

Simon Kelway (d 1623) of Dawlish - Totnes 1589 etc.

They speak with considerable authority (hopefully not spurious!) and include include many references. They may well contain even more relevant material outside the page nos given (and of which I have copies).

My usual caveats - apologies if this is all old hat - and for my Works software which will doubtless make a dog's dinner of the layout which reaches you!

All the best

Brian

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Oct 16, 2004
Subject: Robert W & L/Exton Arms

Problem solved. 1st quartering the pears and glaziers of the K/Cs. 2nd the de Romsey COA 3rd. The ten bessants of the Bisset family. 4th The Harringtons.

Robert of the W & L took unto himself the Rockbourne Coat of Arms!

Bruce

From: Brian Kelway Willoughby
Sent: Oct 16, 2004
Subject: Robert W & L/Exton Arms

Bruce

Well done that man! Many thanks for Courtauld Picture - glad too to have your identification of the four quarterings.

The House of Commons docs certainly hold that Robert II (W & L) was a son of Robert I (Mayor & MP of Salisbury). But they are a bit more vague about Robert I's origins, tending to " ...... Rockbourne ...... Wiltshire ...... parents unknown ...... presumably a younger son who settled in Salisbury.".

I was/am hoping that the Coats of Arms lower down the monument, in the left and right hand top corners of the main arch, might throw some more light on the (even) earlier generations. They contain upwards of twenty quarterings, which are just about visible by zooming in to the second of the six A & A/Courtauld pictures, but generally not really interpretable (at least by me?) - hence the hope for some better photos (does anybody know of any?).

I don't have the info to hand, but I have an idea that the grozing irons/pears Arms predate Rockbourne? Any views?

Good hunting

Brian

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Oct 17, 2004
Subject: Robert W & L/Exton Arms

Yes well done both of you.

I too Brian would dearly love to know what those other arms might be.

I think the whole family may have "adopted" the pear arms, if Burke and Co, and the Heraldic Pedigrees, are followed.

Not sure where you are with the copious earlier discussions, but we, or I anyway, think the arms may have originated around 1500, or just possibly, back to about 1450. Sir William No 1 was knighted in 1501, and he could have been the culprit - the cousies and bros following suit. Rockborne was apparently in family hands in the mid 1400s, but it may have been Sir John who moved there, after inheriting the manor in 1507. (Don't know whether there is any evidence remaining today of the pears or any family arms, either in the manor buildings, or church.)

The pears were probably obvious at the time, but the grosing irons definitely relate to stained glass, which had been becoming more "English" in the 1400s, and just could have been part of the rebuilding of Sherborne Abbey.

(They also formed part of the guild arms which originated about 1500.)

I still think that the chevron and leopards heads were the earlier COA - as seen at Dolton, and with other old non C/K families.

As Sherrill says there is some evidence to suggest that Robert 1 was a younger son, or maybe even illegitimate son of the first Sir William, born about 1470, although it seems strange that he is not referred to in the Pedigrees, which originated while he was alive. To me that could indicate another family, perhaps a younger brother of Sir John, remotely possibly a cousin, as the son of perhaps Peter or Thomas, the brothers of Sir William. Again, because there were legal associations with the family of the other Robert, son of Thomas, some of whom later went to Wiltshire, we cannot discount them.

(This was the older family of William of Sherborne, with what appears to be a missing generation of Thomases.)

If illegitimate, the Heralds may not have wanted to record him. He of course could probably do just about anything he wanted.

The real clue however may lie with that William Webb, alias Kellowe, a slightly earlier again 1496 Mayor of Salisbury. Who was he, and why the alias?

Sir John did have a younger brother William, mentioned in granddad William of Sherborne's will, about whose descendants, if any, we know nothing. However that William and Robert I would have been about the same age.

Perhaps mummy was a Webb? As second son, and having "missed out" on the major family inheritance, did he move to mummy's home? (Incidentally I do not have a name for Sir William's wife.)

William was presumably born c 1465, before granddad William died in 1469, while Robert I may have been born c 1470, with his son Robert II born in 1497. That seems to suggest William Webb and Robert I might have been brothers?

I do get a little confused about Robert I and the Byfleet connection, but am reasonably convinced that Robert II (W&L) was born about 1497, and aged 84 when he died in 1583, which seems to match all the other evidence about him.

Short of sieving through the old evidence again to discover some hidden clue, the secondary arms on Robert's tomb may be the way to go.

Good luck

Warwick

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Oct 17, 2004
Subject: Robert W & L/Exton Arms

It is possible that the largesse to the Rockbourners et al exhibited in Robert W&L's will is now more explicable with Sherrill's interpretation of his immediate ancestry. I am intrigued however by the eagle eye of Brian in observing the COAs which lie at the base of the supporting columns. On review, they are indeed a complex mix of quarterings which must be interpreted. No amount of fiddling with the A & A/Courtaulds pics however allow this. Therefore, lest any potential visitor with a camera be put off by the preceding EMs, please think again. (nudge nudge!)

One quartering at least contains the pears and nippers which indicates their importance. Brian asks do the grozing irons/pears arms predate Rockbourne? They sure do. Whilst we have never actually tied down their first association with the family they predate their appearance in the Guild of Glaziers COA, were used extensively in Sherbourne and by the Kelway, Webb and Stafford offshoots of the early family. Off the top of my head (Warwick may have more detail) they probably date their association with our family from the late 1300's, 150 or so years before Rockbourne. The scribblings of Robert W & L in his diary when he was a new comer at the Inns of Court (which are preserved at ? Harvard University) indicate that he was right into the origins of his family and experimenting, not only with variants of the name, but the latinization which ultimately was displayed on his memorial.

A most interesting guy. Brian may not have been on line when we were briefly corresponding with that Oxford chappy who was writing his biography for the National Biography which has just been published. We were arguing about who was the author of of the famous bit of English Common Law which applies all around the world (with the exception of Wyoming), Robert W&L or his pappy. 12 Henry V11 Keilway 36 "Where my beasts, of their own wrong, without my will and knowledge, break another close, I shall be punished, for I am a trespasser with my beasts"

I will not bore you with the conclusions, but simply say that this brilliant if rather eccentric ancestor (who probably according to Sherrill fudged his birth date) also worked out his ancestry, you can be sure that like Winston Churchill he planned his funeral and memorial and included everyone to whom he thought he was related.

Bruce

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Oct 17, 2004
Subject: Robert W & L/Exton Arms

Bruce

Our mail has crossed again.

Regretfully I never found any evidence of a date for the C/K arms. They were in Sherborne Abbey, but whether they originated at the time of the reconstruction after the 1436 fire (which could have been as late as 1470-ish), or even from John of Cullompton around 1530, we shall probably never know, as the windows there were destroyed again in the Dissolution activities around 1545. Today there is only a very small section remaining, but it is there, if relocated. My favoured guess is the earlier date, and that Sir William chose them for himself, when awarded the Order of the Bath in 1501. The Rockborne Manor was possibly built/rebuilt some time after this.

Other sources of the arms, such as Dolton, no-one has as yet dated, but they may not be much beyond this time, if not later.

I also searched in various documents, without any success at all, for the presumed earlier arms.

The C/K pears were in the royal gardens in the late 1200s, but the grosing irons look to be of later origin - rather of the period when more common people were given the right to bear arms. Evidently also the stained glass was more the craft of French Artisans until the 1400s. I doubt that the family would have continued any connection from the 1100s when it all began.

It does seem very likely that the family did specialise in stained glass work from the mid 1400s however, which would match up the growth of the craft in England, with Sherborne Abbey.

So, for me at least, the origin still remains a mystery.

Regards

Warwick

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Oct 17, 2004
Subject: Robert W & L photo

Guess this must be the said Robert Wards & Liveries. Sure carries the K/C nose!

Bruce

The ownership of an estate in BAPTON, then claimed as a 'manor', was contested in the early 16th century between members of the Kellaway family and other suitors. Some time between 1486 and 1493 or between 1504 and 1505 a Thomas Hymerford claimed to have been seised of the 'manor', but to have been deprived of the deeds by Thomas Kellaway, (Footnote 68) and in the period 1532–44 Edmund, son of Thomas Estcourt, laid a similar charge against Robert Kellaway. (Footnote 69) In 1545 a John Kellaway was living in Bapton, (Footnote 70) and it was no doubt he who in 1566 bought out Edmund Estcourt's interests in Fisherton and other places (Footnote 71) and who died in 1568 seised of a capital messuage and lands in Bapton and Tisbury, held of the Marquess of Winchester as of Fisherton manor. (Footnote 72) There is some reason to think that Robert and Thomas Kellaway, mentioned above, were respectively his father and grandfather. (Footnote 73) If this is so, then John's great-grandfather was called William Kellaway. William married a Joan Barret, and in 1413 a John Barret was holding land in Bapton, Tisbury, and other nearby places, which he acquired from his cousin, Thomas Payne, who, in his turn, had acquired them from his father-in-law, John Ellis. This Ellis had another son-in-law, called Walter Estcott—presumably the same as Estcourt. (Footnote 74) It is possible that it was through the gift of John Payne to John Barret that the Kellaway lands in Bapton were first acquired and the claim to those lands by Edmund Estcourt first set up.

John Kellaway was succeeded in the capital messuage by his son Henry. (Footnote 75) He and his son Robert leased the property to Joan Hibberd and Henry Hoskins, her son, in succession, and in 1599 this lease was renewed to Hoskins alone. This second lease took effect about 1620. (Footnote 76) In 1625 Robert Kellaway, his son Robert, and a third person sold the freehold, under the name of Bapton Farm, to Sir Edward Wardour, (Footnote 77) who by 1627 had also acquired the interest in the lease of 1599. (Footnote 78) Wardour, in turn, sold it in 1627 to John Davis, a yeoman from North Wraxall, (Footnote 79) who in 1626 had married Joan Hoskins.

From: British History Online
Source: Fisherton de la Mere. A History of the County of Wiltshire: Volume VIII, R.B. Pugh (Editor) (1965).
URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=16075&strquery=Kellaway#n169
Date: 18/10/2004
© Copyright 2003 University of London & History of Parliament Trust 68C1/139/27.
69C1/785/20.

70Taxation Lists (W.A.S. Rec. Brch.), 36.
71C.P. 24 (1)/2/8 Eliz. I Hil.
72C 142/152/171.
73Hutchins (Hist. Dors. iv. 194) prints a pedigree. This branch of the Kellaways came from Dors. but intermarried with Wilts. families. Robt. Kellaway, when conveying Bapton in 1625, was described as late of Lillington (Dors.). Robt. Keilway, the law reporter (D.N.B.), was presumably a member of this family.
74B.M. Add. Ch. 26777.
75C142/152/171.
76W.R.O. 628, Bargain and Sale, 1627.
77W.R.O. 467/13.
78W.R.O. 628, Bargain and Sale, 1627.
79

From: Brian Kelway Willoughby
Sent: Oct 18, 2004
Subject: Robert W & L photo

Hang on a moment - isn't that the son-in-law, John Harington?

Incidentally, it rather looks as tho he has only been carrying his own nose part-time - or is that line merely a vein in the alabaster?!

And is the lion? dog? at Robert's feet displaying his contempt for the world?

Brian

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Oct 18, 2004
Subject: Robert W & L photo

Touché young Willoughby! Go to the head of the class. Of course it is Harrington. The real Robert W&L with a much more aesthetic nose is attached. My son Pete, resident in London will shortly attempt to photograph those intriguing coats of arms.

Bruce

From: Sherrill Williams
Sent: Oct 24, 2004
Subject: Kellaway - Glass Patent

Mr. Kellaway wrote:

Found this on the web:

House of Commons Journal Volume 1 >> 06 May 1614

Glass Patent.
The Patent of Glass brought in by Mr. Kellaway, and delivered, but with Protestation, that they have done it in Obedience to the Order of the House;
and to be left here, as belonging, in Right, to the said Patentees.

Sir Roger Owen: - That the Committee for the French Company, shall consider of what Course to take with the Patent, and Patentees, for Glass.

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Oct 27, 2004
Subject: Kellaway - Glass Patent

Okay you guys, I am back on deck rejuvenated after a weeks R&R (no fish Sherm!) Brian's excellent expose of the 16th c. Docteur noted and the glass patent by "Mr. Kellaway" a possible attempt by a descendant to move back into the glass industry formerly owned by the family. (Refer KellChat for previous discussions). It has always appeared to me that the branch of our family who adopted the COA which contains the pears and glaziers nippers kept their heads down. It was a troublesome time and involved International expediency in addition to some opposition from local 'greenies' in that there was concern about the de-afforestation of many of the southern counties. Glass making involved huge quantities of wood.

It is possible that our 'lost' ancestors were making big bucks, whilst their rels were more concerned with social advancements. Definitely requires more work. However moving from medieval matters to present day, I am increasingly concerned that we have virtually reached our limits with our current DNA pool . I see little point in repeating Pete and Joe's DNA except possibly to fine tune individual lines. We need their origins. We are on to Pete's case, but this is where a paper trail assumes importance. Joseph is so far out of whack, that it is clear that none of the DNA which we have resourced is within a 'Bull's roar'. We need more C/K lines within the U.K. as yet untapped. This should potentially sort out everyone's antecedents, and hopefully ultimately tie the lines back to our medieval commonality.

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Oct 27, 2004
Subject: Kellaway - Glass Patent

The origin of the C/K coat of arms has occupied us for years. We suspect, but cannot confirm that it was in existence pre 1500s. I was in communication with the Worshipful Company of Glaziers some years back as their COA has the crossed glaziers nippers. (grozing irons) Unfortunately their records were partially destroyed in the Great Fire of London and again during the Blitz. We did however agree that the C/K COA pre-dated theirs!

Up until the mid 1400s glass making in the UK was dominated by the French and the Italians who closely guarded their secrets. We know that much politicking occurred around this time in order that British made stained glass could be produced and thus break the French and Italian monopoly. Knowing the propensity of 'our' rels over the centuries to pinch anything that was not tied down, I have long suspected that something akin to the "Italian Job" occurred with the connivance of the medieval equivalent of MI5 and the CIA! Lest wars in addition to those being conducted at the time were to escalate, the 'half inching' of the trade secrets never made it into the history books. The C/Ks were quietly granted the grozing irons for their COA (neither the French or Italians having a clue as to the meaning of this device),and were able to add to their already substantial fortune provided that they kept their heads down.

All this may seem like the stuff of fiction, but the breaking of the Franco/Italian glass making monopoly was a coup of the highest order for the Brits. That there is no mention of glass making in State Papers Foreign or Domestic until about 150 years later, and then only because of the insatiable appetite of the trade for firewood for the kilns,that we C/Ks held in this time the only COA with a glass making device, and this subsequently adopted by the regulators of the trade, must add credence to part at least of my 'fiction'!

Would be delighted to receive the Digger-Victoria indexes.

regards

Bruce

From: David & Pat Kellaway
Sent: Nov 1, 2004
Subject: Kellaway - Glass Patent

In 1610 a patent was granted to Sir W. Slingsby for burning coal in furnaces, and coal appears to have been used in the Broad Street works. In 1615 all patents for glass-making were revoked and a new patent issued for making glass with coal as fuel, in the names of Mansel, Zouch, Thelwall, Kellaway and Percival. To the last is credited the first introduction of covered crucibles to protect the molten glass from the products of burning coal.

Reference: "GLASTONBURY." LoveToKnow 1911 Online Encyclopedia. © 2003, 2004
http://81.1911encyclopedia.org/G/GL/GLASTONBURY.htm

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Nov 9, 2004
Subject: Agnes

Bruce

There were numerous Angneses.

John of Cullompton and Jane were a little like rabbits, and yes a daughter Agnes married Henricus Lyte de Lytes , and was buried at Charlton Caryborne in 1564.

There was another Agnes, daughter of a John, who married John Drake of Otterton. That John Drake, related to Sir Frank, was referred to in John's 1531 will, so was presumably a relative. It is possible that she was the daughter of either William Kelloway, later Stafford, who moved from Stowford to Ottery St Mary, or his brother Thomas, who married an Agnes, although he moved to Dowland, near Dolton.

Earlier, William of Sherborne is thought to have had a daughter Agnes, who married Richard Estcott, presumably around 1450-60, and commenced the squabble over the Wiltshire property of Bapton, that lasted until the late 1500s.

Agnes the daughter of John, presumed son of William of Sherborne, married Thomas Pomeroy of Tregony Cornwall, possibly around 1475 (John bequeathed them the Cheriton Fitzpaine property). In 1461 a John, and his wife Agnes, were referred to with regard to property in Sherborne - very likely that Agnes's parents.

There were others.

Warwick

From: David Kelway
Sent: Nov 9, 2004
Subject: COA

Bruce
There is so much that is new to me. It is a little like a child in a sweet shop. The problem is knowing what to deal with first. Someone asked about the pears in the Kelway COA (already I am dropping into the short hand!) and suggested that perhaps one of the Kelways had developed this type.** Its a lovely idea, and may not be as wild as it first appears. The nursery only started in 1851, and I think there are references to the pears long before that. I know that I have some photos of the windows in the house at Athelhampton which closely resemble the picture you sent me, and have pears in the COA. The only slight doubt I have came as a result of looking more closely at a description and hand coy of the COA taken from "The Ancester" April 1904 page 162.,which shows the pears replaced by 4 nails!. The written description says "Silver two crossed groysyng eyrnes between four malets (corrected in a later hand to nayles) all sable and a chief azure with a demi leopard (Glasiers cote) passent gold"

Also from the same publication of October 1904 No 11 page 188

Extract from Thomas Wall's book of crests (1530)

No.203 "Cailway beryth to his crest a cocke silver combyd azur standing in a wreth gold and azur mantled sable doubled silver"

** Because I was interested only in the direct line, much of the information I held I had glanced at only briefly. You mention that the pears might be of the kind "Kelways", and you had probably got the information from the Ancestor April 1902, pages 107/8 headed Heraldic Glass from Lytes Carey, Co Somerset.

No 11. Gules a chevron between three swans argent, impaling argent two glasiers irons in saltire between four pears gules, Inscribed "Lyte and Kelloway". The second of these names has been supplied in modern glass. Thomas Lyte, the genealogist, seems to have thought that this shield must necessarily have been that of one of his direct ancestors, and tried to locate the match between Lyte and Kelloway in the fifteenth century. There were however, two such matches in the first half of the sixteenth century, as he was aware. The shield may possibly be that of his own father Henry Lyte, who married Agnes, daughter and co heiress of John Kelloway of Collumpton in 1546. It is more probably that of William Lyte, of Lillesdon, who married Dorothy, daughter of Sir John Kelloway of Rockbourne, relic of John BUller of Wode in or before 1537. The pears in the sinister half of the sheild were obviously of the kind known as Kelways. The meaning of the glazier's irons is not so obvious. I have a catalogue for Kelways for 1912, and although they have a Kelway pear there, I somehow feel it is not the one under discussion!
Yours David K

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Nov 9, 2004
Subject: COA

David,

Do take your time. This is proving most interesting. Firstly, the pears replaced by nails is easily explained. This is the 17th century COA of the Worshipful Company of Glaziers which is still extant. The Company has admitted that the K/C arms with the glaziers nippers and pears preceded theirs by at least a hundred years, but the mystery of 'our' association with said nippers and pears remains.

Thank you for reminding me about the Lyte and K/C association other than what I assumed about the arms in Godney. Indeed Dorothy, daughter of Sir John of Rockbourne and Anne Strangeway had firstly married John Buller and on his death, William Lyte who was known as "Black Will" (for an indeterminate reason!)

Now you guys, we will have to re-visit the Agnesses! You will recall that this caused us all sorts of problems some time ago. I only have (1) Agnes daughter of William and Joan Barrett who married Richard Estcott and (2) Agnes daughter of John of Cheriton Fitzpaine who married Thomas Pomeroy. Now David has aced me by introducing Agnes daughter of John of Collumpton who married Henry Lyte in 1546! Help someone!

Bruce

From: Bill Piper
Sent: Nov 10, 2004
Subject: COA

Bruce,
Just a query. Do you have this admission? It wasn't said to me, as such. I agree it's almost certainly true.
Bill

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Nov 10, 2004
Subject: COA

Bruce, Bill, David, everyone,

I bow to superior research on this matter. It seems to remain unlikely however that we will ever get really definitive evidence.

My thoughts are these, that there must have been considerable family involvement with stained glass for the COA to display the grosing irons. I could believe the comment that the K/C arms preceded the Glaziers Company, and would be impressed that the company would move to "copy" them, as that confirms very deep involvement. If it was the other way around would not worry me.

As regards the pears element, that must be an obvious recognition of the C/K pear, which had been in flavour from the time of Edward I in the 1200s (at least). It seems to me therefore that a new Knight of the Bath from a notable family, that had been "quiet" for some time, would choose an object symbolic of his name in 1501, just as other knighted gentlemen might have selected their name match, and support it with a symbol of the craft with which they enjoyed some fame. (Sir William)

The family may have used the arms before this time. The lengthy rebuilding of Sherborne Abbey must have given the opportunity to provide the stained glass, if not also a measure of penance, following the burning of the Abbey in 1436. We know the arms are present there in a place of importance, but may date from later - the death of John of Cullompton for example. (The attack on the windows was not long after his death in 1530, and there seems to have been an attempt to "reinstall" the arms.)

There are other examples of the family COA in churches. Some research into the Dolton Church, where the likely earlier arms co-exist, might produce some evidence of time. I do suspect however that those examples may also be restorations. (Research there into the Dolton/Devon family would be great.)

I do not really favour the thought that the pears and grosing irons date back much before 1450, as arms before about 1500 were much more "impersonal" - a chevron and three leopards heads for example.

Good luck

Warwick

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Nov 10, 2004
Subject: COA

Nice summary Warwick, but I must add a reply to Bill Piper's somewhat legalistic question before the revisionists of the Worshipful Company of Glaziers attempt to alter history. I attach from a new scanner an horrendously large download of a 20 year old letter from the Worshipful Company of Glaziers and Painters of Glass. It at least displays clearly the nippers and nails of their COA. I will save you from copies of the subsequent correspondence until I can master the wretched scanner, but let me summarise what followed for the record.

Robert Cooke, Clarencieux King of Arms paid his first visit to the Company in 1588 to approve their COA of 'two black glazing irons in saltire (crossed) between four black closing nails'. It was approved again in 1634. When I pointed out to R.F. Lane (Surveyor and Librarian) that the College of Arms held from a visitation to Surrey, Hampshire, the Isle of Wight, Sussex, Kent and Somerset in 1531, COAs registered on vellum manuscripts (1H7) described as 'two glaziers nippers in saltire sable between four pears vert' belonging to the K/C family, he came back at me pleading the destruction of the Company's records in the Great Fire of London and the Blitz. He thought that maybe the K/Cs did have the nippers before the formation of the Guild.

I believe, as Warwick has said that we may never get definitive evidence of the association of the K/Cs with glass making, but whilst the Company talks vaguely about "Magri vitrear" and quotes " vitarii (Glaziers) coming before the Mayors and Aldermen in A.D.1474",If in a poker game they were to lead with their 1588 vellum, we should immediately trump them with our 1531 vellum (folio 36 of 1H7) which clearly states the pedigree of Calway headed by Sir John Calway, Knight. The arms shown were a quarterly coat, 1 and 4 Argent two glaziers nippers in saltire Sable between four pears Vert engrailed Sable, 2 Argent a fess Gules a label Azure, 3 Azure ten roundels Or 4, 3, 2 and 1: crest a cock Argent beaked, wattled and legged Azure.(and we should all know that one)

This may not stand up in a court of law, but these are indisputable facts!

Bruce

From: Sherrill Williams
Sent: Nov 11, 2004
Subject: COA

Hi All!

It appears that the C/K COA (pears & glazier's nippers), if he bore the same arms, dates back at least to 1412 when Tho. Kayleway "presented" at Sutton Bingham. On Dec 12, 1412 he is listed as "Tho. Kayleway, arm."

I was recently reminded of that when re-visiting "The Ancient Family of Wyke of North Wyke, Co. Devon" by the Rev. W. Wykes-Finch (a paper read at Sidmouth, July 1903).

Roger Wyke married Joan (nee Bingham), widow of Thomas Callaway, around 1422. In 1448, upon the death of his first wife's [Joan Bingham Callaway] cousin, Joan Romesey, he (Roger Wyke) entered into possession of her share of Rockborne, Hants. Roger Wyke died in 1467. He presented at Sutton Bingham from 1422 til 1467.

Roger Wyke, by his 1st wife [Joan Bingham Callaway] had his oldest son John Wyke who married Joan d/o John Camill of Shapwick & Charborough in Dorset. His son, also John Wyke, succeeded him and married Elizabeth, d.o ______ Lites, of Lites Cary [just to prove that what goes around comes around - more than once!]

"Will. Calway, arm." presented at Sutton Bingham in 1500; again, as "Will. Kaylewaye, mil" in 1505. This is the 1st William C/K knight, who died in 1508, father of Sir John of Rockborne.

I'll resist the urge to speculate on how this Thomas C/K (md. Joan Bingham) fits into the grander scheme. Will save that for another day. But, it does appear that the C/K arms is pre-1412. Remember, the fragment of the C/K arms in St Katherine's chapel at Sherborne includes a "mullet" [is that right?] indicating that the arms were those of a 3rd son.

Sherrill

From: Sherrill Williams
Sent: Nov 13, 2004
Subject: Sussex, England Parish Records

SUSSEX, ENGLAND PARISH REGISTERS

ALDINGBOURNE PARISH:

Thomas Callaway & Hannah Greenwood md. 20 April 1778

Sarah Calloway d/o Thomas & Hannah chr. 29 April 1781

Thomas Calloway s/o Thos. & Hannah chr. 13 Oct 1783

Edward Calloway s/o Thomas & Hannah chr. 15 May 1785

Zachariah Calloway s/o Thomas & Hannah chr. 29 Jan 1792

Thomas Calleway & Elizabeth Grant md. 22 July 1805

Sophia Calloway d/o Edward & Ann chr. 4 Aug 1822

William Callaway s/o Edward & Ann chr. 28 Aug 1825

ARLINGTON PARISH: [East Sussex]

Susan Calloway d/o William chr. 17 Nov 1633

Thomas Calloway s/o Will chr. 30 Nov 1634

John Calloway s/o Will. chr. 22 Aug 1641

Thomas Kelloway s/o Thomae & Joannae chr. 9 Nov 1662

Jana Calloway d/o Thomae & Janae chr. 12 June 1687

Maria Calloway d/o Thomae & Janae chr. 25 Aug 1689

Thomas Calloway s/o Thomae & Janae chr. 12 March 1691

[also given as son of Thomas & Mary - same date]

Joanna Calloway & Johannes Foot md. 28 Jan 1691

John Calloway s/o Thomae & Janae chr. 4 June 1694

Elizabeth Calloway d/o Thomae & Janae chr. 6 Sept 1696

Nicholaus Calloway s/o Thomae & Janae chr. 29 May 1698

Thomas Kelloway & Joannum Grey md. 9 Feb 1661

ARUNDEL PARISH:

Mary Ann Callaway & James Cooper md. 29 Aug 1836

Thomas Callaway s/o Thomas & Mary chr. 24 Aug 1738

Frederick Callaway & Anne Parker md. 27 Dec 1847

Charles Callaway s/o Frederic & Ann chr 30 April 1848

Frederic Callaway(?) Callaway s/o Frederic & Anne chr 29 July 1849

Fanny Callaway d/o Frederic & Anne chr 29 July 1849

Richard Callaway s/o Frederic & Ann chr. 27 Oct 1850

Annie Callaway d/o Frederick & Ann chr 25 April 1852

Jane Callaway d/o Frederick & ann chr. 26 Aug 1855

Hellen Callaway d/o Frederick & Ann chr. 26 Oct 1856

Henry Callaway s/o Frederick & Ann chr. 28 Feb 1858

Thomas Calloway & Ann Heward md. [no date]

BINSTED PARISH:

Thomas Calloway & Susan Shepherd md. 24 Dec 1727

Thomas Calloway & Mary White md. 29 Aug 1736

BIRDHAM PARISH:

Cutbert Callaway & Alice Busbye md. 17 Nov 1567

Thomas Callaway s/o [no parents named] chr. 24 Jan 1573

BODIAM PARISH: [East Sussex]

Mary Ann Callaway & Elijah Eldridge md. 19 Jan 1856

BRIGHTON ST STEPHEN PARISH:

Susan Callaway d/o James & Susan chr. 19 May 1871

CHALVINGTON PARISH: [East Sussex]

William Callaway s/o John & Mary chr. 2 Feb 1755

CHICHESTER ST ANDREW PARISH:

Richard Calloway s/o Thomas chr. 15 Nov 1614

Mary Callaway d/o Thomas chr. 23 Feb 1616

Thomas Calloway s/o Thomas chr. 22 Aug 1619

Thomas Calloway s/o Thomas chr. 1 May 1621

Jeremie Calloway s/o Tho: Calloway chr. 26 Oct 1623

Elizabeth Caloway d/o Thomas chr. 3 April 1626

CHICHESTER ST. PETER THE GREAT PARISH [or Subdeanery of Chichester]

John Calaway & Ann Pechy md. 21 Dec 1657

CHICHESTER - THE CLOSE:

Thomas Callaway s/o Thomas & Ann chr. 28 Aug 1695

CHICHESTER ST MARTIN PARISH:

Zachariah Callaway & Mary Barrow md. 25 Dec 1735

CHIDHAM PARISH:

Elizabeth Callaway d/o Edward & Ann chr. 6 April 1740

Ann Callaway d/o Edward & Ann chr 1 May 1741

Martha Callaway d/o Edward & Ann chr. 16 June 1745

CLIMPING PARISH:

Edward Calloway & Mary Holt md. 22 Oct 1752

Edwd. Calloway s/o Ed. & Mary chr. 2 Sept 1753

COMPTON PARISH:

Tho. Calloway & Ann Pacy md. 26 Dec 1704

Edward Callaway s/o Thomas & Anne chr 16 Dec 1705

Mary Calloway d/o Thomas & Ann chr. 28 March 1707

Ann Callaway d/o Tho. & Ann chr. 7 Oct 1708

Sarah Calloway d/o Tho. & Anne chr. 12 July 1711

Elizabeth Callaway & George Russell md. 20 Sept 1745

EAST GRINSTEAD PARISH: [East Sussex]

James Kellaway & Ann Ellis md. 27 April 1863

EWHURST PARISH: [East Sussex]

Margerie Calloway & Thomas Roper md. 7 Nov 1659

FELPHAM PARISH:

John Calaway & Margaret Richards md. 4 Nov 1634

FERRING PARISH:

George Callaway s/o Henry & Sarah chr. 10 March 1822

Ann Kelloway & George Streeter md. 1 Oct 1841

Sarah Ann Kelloway d/o George & Charlotte chr. 24 Oct 1847

Elizabeth Killaway & Charles Penfold md. 14 April 1849

George Kellaway s/o George & Charlotte chr. 25 Dec 1850

Harriet Kelloway d/o George & Charlotte chr. 20 April 1851

Ann Kelloway d/o George & Charlotte chr 19 June 1853

Lucy Kelloway d/o George & Charlotte chr. 11 Sept 1859

Emily Kelloway d/o George & Charlote chr. 10 Aug 1862

[NEW] FISHBOURNE PARISH:

John Callaway s/o John chr. 23 Nov 1615

Joan Callaway d/o John chr. 28 Jan 1623

James Calloway & Martha Hall md. 26 Dec 1704

Elizabeth Calloway d/o James & Martha chr. 2 Dec 1705

FITTLEWORTH PARISH:

Elizabeth Calloway & John Garrard md. 3 May 1698

Anne Calloway & George Figg md. 23 Dec 1735

GORING PARISH:

George Kellaway & Charlotte Saker md. 24 Dec 1845

LAUGHTON PARISH:

Samuel Calloway & Dorothy Goldsmith md. 16 Sept 1672

Richard Calliway & Ann Hilands md. 5 May 1800

HOVE ST ANDREW PARISH: [East Sussex]

Richard Robert Callaway & Harriet Whittingham md. 10 Feb 1863

LEWES PARISH: (ALL SAINTS?) [East Sussex]

John Callaway & Ann Mapelsden md. 7 April 1826

Rebecca Callaway & Richard Ockenden md. 20 Oct 1628

ST. JOHN SUB CASTRO PARISH, LEWES: [East Sussex]

William Callaway & Rebecca Swann md. 27 April 1612

LITTLEHAMPTON PARISH:

Annie Callaway & Henry Simpson md. 27 Dec 1873

Charles Callaway & Mary Street md. 10 May 1874

MIDDLETON BY BOGNER: [Middleton-on-Sea (near) Bogner Regis]

Elizabeth Calloway d/o John chr. 6 Sept 1635

Thomas Calloway s/o John chr. 23 Aug 1640

NEWHAVEN PARISH: [East Sussex]

Thomas Callaway s/o Christopher & Emmy chr. 13 Oct 1784

Susannah Calloway & Thomas Young md. 1 Aug 1799

OVING PARISH: [East Sussex]

Maria Kelleway & William Brewer md. 28 March 1525

PAGHAM PARISH:

Hannah Callaway & Richard Robinson md. 7 March 1803

PETWORTH PARISH:

Mary Kallaway d/o John chr. 1 Sept 1678

Charles Callaway s/o John chr. 5 June 1687

John Callaway s/o John chr. 9 March 1702

William Callaway s/o John chr. 3 March 1705

Elizabeth Callaway d/o John chr. 22 Aug 1707

Thomas Callaway s/o John chr. 20 Aug 1710

Mary Callaway d/o Jo. chr. 20 July 1718

Thomas Callaway s/o John & Mary chr. 17 Jan 1732

Willm. Caloway s/o John & Mary chr. 23 May 1736

Mary Calloway d/o John & Mary chr. 13 Nov 1737

John Callaway s/o John & Catherine chr. 3 March 1749

John Callaway s/o John & Catherine chr. 18 Dec 1751

Mary Calloway d/o John & Elizabeth chr. 29 July 1768

John Callaway s/o John & Elizabeth chr. 9 Jan 1775

Elizabeth Callaway d/o John & Elizth. chr 5 Oct 1777

Elizabeth Callaway & James Rogerson md. 2 June 1795

RACTON PARISH:

Elizabeth Callaway & William Moses md. 10 Oct 1756

Mary Callaway & Arthur Varndell md. 22 Oct 1772

Anne Callaway d/o James chr 17 Sept 1778

Mary Calloway d/o James & Ann chr. 13 Dec 1782

John Callaway s/o James & Ann chr. 29 June 1786

RIPE PARISH: [East Sussex]

William Calloway s/o Richard & Ann chr. 9 June 1811

ROGATE PARISH:

Ellen Callaway d/o George Augustus & Louisa chr. 30 Nov 1843

Mary Callaway & Conningsby Denny md. 22 July 1863

ROTHERFIELD PARISH: [East Sussex]

Ellinor Calliway & Robert Gilbert md. 5 Sept 1714

RUSTINGTON PARISH:

Frank Hyde Callaway s/o Frederick & Ann chr. 30 Nov 1863

Walter Avis Callaway s/o Frederick & Ann chr. 24 Aug 1866

SALEHURST PARISH: [East Sussex]

Mary Jane Callaway d/o Abraham Callaway & Jane Harvey chr. 21 May 1837

SELSEY PARISH:

Thomas Callaway & Mary Clark md. 28 May 1808

Thomas Callaway s/o Thomas & Mary chr. 7 Jan 1809

Mary Ann Calloway d/o Thomas & Mary chr. 2 Dec 1810

Charles Callaway s/o Thomas & Mary chr. 2 Jan 1814

Edward Callaway & Ann Fox md. 29 Sept 1814

William Calloway s/o Thomas & Mary chr. 10 Dec 1815

Charlotte Callaway d/o Edward & Anne chr 4 May 1817

George Callaway s/o Thomas & Mary chr. 17 Jan 1819

David Callaway s/o Thomas & Mary chr 28 March 1824

SIDLESHAM PARISH:

Marut Calloway d/o Cutberd chr. 18 July 1572

Cutberd Calloway & Elizabeth Faith md. 25 July 1575

Elizabeth Calloway d/o Cutberd chr. 3 April 1575

WESTBOURNE PARISH:

William Calloway s/o James & Ann chr. 12 Sept 1788

WESTMESTON PARISH: [East Sussex]

John Callaway & Ann Brooker md. 26 July 1815

Samuel Calaway & Elizabeth Hollingdale md. 15 Dec 1817

Access to Archives for Sussex

West Sussex Record Office:

The Harris Manuscripts (First Deposit)

Strudwicke’s lands in Donnington:

Deed poll of assignment by Henry Hull of Crockerhill, Boxgrove, Sussex, yeoman, to Richard Williams of Chichester, gent - For L27 - of 2 tofts and 1 acre in Donnington comprised in a lease dated 20 June 1605 by Sir John Malet and others to William Strudwick, the term of the lease being for the remainder of 1000 years, etc.

Witnesses: Peter Cox, Nicho. Exton, Robert Culper, Thomas Callaway.

Date: 12 Oct 1635

Ref: Harris/ 153 & 154

Petworth House Archives

A considerable amount of material remains to be dealt with at Petworth. It is regretted that no access whatsoever can be allowed to this uncatalogued material. The catalogued material may only be consulted at the West Sussex Record Office at Chichester and at least two weeks notice must be given of any intended visit to Chichester to consult the Petworth House Archives, in order that the documents required may be brought from Petworth. Lord Egremont reserves the right to refuse access to any document listed here, and no post-1900 documents may be consulted without his special permission.

Inventories: Inventory of the goods of John Calloway of Petworth, seized for the 6th Duke of Somerset in lieu of rent due.

Date: 8 May 1701

Ref. PHA/6569

Additional Manuscripts, Catalogue 2

Deeds of 13 Westgate, Chichester

Covenant to levy a fine and to lead the uses thereof.

IV. Messuage with backside and garden, formerly in occ. of Christopher Caplin, Thomas Knight and Peter Calloway, between a messuage where John Friend heretofore dwelt on E., a messuage where Henry Burnett formerly dwelt on W., the highway on N., and an orchard of John Linter, formerly in occ. of Thomas Alberry on S.; and plot of ground heretofore used by Thomas Knight as a garden, containing in length from E. to W. 52 ½ feet and in breadth from N. to S. 43 feet, between a fence of posts and pales on the backside belonging to the said dwellinghouse of John Friend on N., the said orchard of John Linter, in occ. of Thomas Alberry, on S., the Lavant Course on E., and the garden belonging to the said messuage and backside on W., which plot of ground was heretofore parcel of the said messuage where said Friend formerly dwelt and of the said orchard in occ. of Thomas Alberry, and which were heretofore purchased by said John Linter of Thomas Stamp; all in the said parish of St. Bartholomew and lately purchaed by (h) of (d).

Date: 2 April 1748

Ref: Add Mss931

East Sussex Record Office

Warneford Hospital, Oxford - Deeds of Sussex Estate

(Warneford family of Sussex)

The Broad estate Hellingly, inherited by Samuel Wilson Warneford in 1842 & Greencroft in Hellingly, purchaed by Joseph Calverley in 1783:

File - Copy (21 May 1783) of will of Christopher Bunningham of Hellingly, shopkeeper.

Date: 14 Nov 1762

Ref: W/D/108/150

Two pieces of freehold land (4 a.) called Austens in Arlington, lately purchased from James and William Hope, to kinsman William Calloway son of John Calloway of Rye carpenter deceased at [age of] 21 with L50 for his apprenticeship and clothes.

Pecuniary bequests to Mary widow/D/of John Calloway, Kinsman Christopher Calloway son of kinsman Thomas Calloway (lately deceased) at 21, Susan widow/D/ of Thomas Calloway, servant maid Elizabeth Bexhill.

From: Sherrill Williams
Sent: Nov 13, 2004
Subject: C/Ks of Chichester, Sussex and London

C/Ks of Chichester, Sussex and London

I Thomas Calloway of Chichester, Sussex [Note 1]

A. Thomas Callaway - d. London, Southwark [will 1686] [Note 2]

B. Margaret Callaway - md. Thomas Cole

1. Thomas Cole

C. Mary Callaway - “widow Syms (1686); md (1) ______ Butcher.

1. Elizabeth Syms? md. Abraham Chitty [Note 3]

D. Jeremiah Callaway “dec’d” [died 1682]; md. Martha Gunthrop (Gunthorpe)

[Note 4]

1. Thomas Callaway

2. William Callaway

3. Jeremiah Callaway, [Jr.] - d. 1691 [Note 5]

4. Gunthorpe (Gunthrop) Callaway

5. Joseph Callaway - d. 1683-1690/1. [Note 6]

6. Martha Callaway - md. (1) 14 July 1666, Thomas Girdler [Note7]

a. Elizabeth Girdler

b. Martha Girdler

7. Mary Callaway md. More/Moore

a. Benjamin Moore

8. Katherine Callaway - md. James Amey [Note 8]

9. Rebecca Callaway - md. John Dodsworth [Note 9]

E. Elizabeth Callaway - md. (1) _____Cole; (2) Thomas Scardevill

1. Henry Cole

F. Richard Callaway - d. 1654, Hunstone, Sussex [will] [Note 10]

G. John Callaway, Sr. of Chichester, Sussex [Note 11]

1. John Callaway, Jr.

J. James Callaway [Note 12]

Note 1. Parish Register of St Andrew, Chichester, Sussex [from IGI]:

Richard Calloway s/o Thomas chr. 15 Nov 1614

Mary Calloway d/o Thomas chr. 23 Feb 1616

Thomas Calloway s/o Thomas chr. 22 Aug 1619

Thomas Calloway s/o Thomas chr. 1 May 1621

Jeremie Calloway s/o Thomas chr. 26 Oct 1623

Elizabeth Caloway d/o Thomas chr. 3 April 1626

Note 2. Will of Thomas Callaway - 1686 (from files of J. Hobart Bartlett; not published in Callaway Journal).

In the name of God Amen The one and twentyeth day of August Anno Dmi one thousand six hundred eighty six And in the second yeare of the reigne of our Sovereigne Lord King James the second of England &c I Thomas Calloway Citizen and Mason of London being sick and weake in body but of sound disposeing mind and memory praise be given to God doe make and declare this my last Will and Testament as followeth that is to say first and principally I commend my soule into the hands of Allmighty God my creator and of his sonne Jesus Christ my only Saviour and Redeemer through the alone merits of whose most bitter death and passion I stedfastly hope to be saved My body I comitt to the earth from whence it came to be in decent and christian like manner brought to the ground and buryed at the discretion of my Executors hereinafter named And as touching and concerning that estate and substance the Lord of his goodness hath been pleased to lend me I give and dispose thereof after the debts I justly owe are first paid and my funerall expences discharged as followeth that is to say Imprimis I doe give and bequeath unto my welbeloved Sister Margarett Cole the wife of Thomas Cole of the parish of St Thomas in Southwarke Tallow Chandler the sume of three hundred pounds of lawfull money of Engld Item I doe give and bequeath unto my welbeloved Sister Mary Syms Widow the sume of one hundred pounds of like lawfull money of England Item I doe give and bequeath unto my kinswoman Elizabeth Chitty wife of Abraham Chitty and daughter of my said Sister Mary Syms the sume of two hundred pounds of lawfull money of England Item I doe give and bequeth unto my kinsman Jeremyah Calloway sonne of my late Brother Jeremiah Calloway deceased the like sume of two hundred pounds of like lawfull money of England Item I doe give and bequeath unto my kinsman Gunthorpe Calloway one other of the sonnes of my said late Brother Jeremiah Calloway deced the sume of two hundred pounds of like lawfull money of England Item I doe give and bequeath unto my kinsman Joshua [sic] Calloway another of the sonnes of my said late Brother Jeremiah deceased the like sume of two hundred pounds of lawfull money of England to be paid unto him the said Joshua* Calloway when and soe soone as hee shall accomplish the full age of one and twenty yeares Item I doe give and bequeath unto my kinswoman Martha Girdler Widow Daughter of my said late Brother Jeremiah Calloway the sume of fifty pounds of lawfull money of England. Item I doe [give] and bequeath unto my kinswoman Rebecca Calloway Spinster Daughter of my said late Brother Jeremiah Calloway deceased the sume of one hundred pounds of lawfull money of England to be paid unto her the said Rebecca at such time and soe (sic) as shee shall be marryed or shall attaine the age of one and twenty yeares which shall first and next happen after my decease Item I doe give and bequeath unto my kinswoman Mary More Widow Daughter of my said late Brother Jeremiah Calloway deceased the sume of two hundred pounds of lawfull money of England Item I doe give and bequeath unto my kinsman Henry Cole sonne of my late Sister Elizabeth the sume of one hundred pounds of lawfull money of England to be paid unto him the said Henry Cole at such time and soe soone as hee shall attaine the full age of one and twenty yeares Item I doe give and bequeath unto my kinswoman Mary Bishop the sume of five and twenty pounds of lawful money of England and to her Sister Anne Bishop the like sume of five and twenty pounds to be paid unto them respectively at such time and soe soone as they shall accomplish their respective ages of one and twenty yeares or onthe day of their respective marryages which shall first and next happen after my decease Item I doe give and bequeath unto my kinswoman Katherine Amy Daughter of my said late Brother Jeremiah Calloway deced the sume of fifty pounds of lawfull money of England Item I doe give and bequeath unto my kinsman George Children Grocer the sume of twenty pounds of like lawfull money Item I doe give and bequeath unto my Maid servant Anne Kibble the sume of tenne pounds of like money Item I doe give and bequeath unto my kinswoman Elizabeth Girdler Spinster Daughter of the aforesaid Martha Girdler Widow the sume of fifty pounds of lawfull money of England and to Martha Girdler Sister of the said Elizabeth the like sume of fifty pounds to be paid unto them as they shall accomplish their respective ages of one and twenty yeares or dayes of marryage which shall first and next happen after my decease Item I doe give and bequeath unto my Godsonne Thomas Cole sonne of the aforesaid Thomas Cole Tallowchandler the sume of one hundred pounds of lawfull money of England to be paid unto my said Godsonne Thomas Cole at such time and soe soone as hee shall accomplish the full age of one and twenty yeares And my will and mind further is that the said sume of one hundred pounds shall be and remaine in the hands of the said Thomas Cole the father for his said sonnes use during and untill the time of payment thereof herein before limitted whose receipt for the same shall be a sufficient discharge in Law to my other Executor Item I doe give and bequeath unto my Nurse Thomasin Powell Widow the sume of fifty pounds of lawfull money of England Item I doe give and bequeath unto Susanna Walter Widow the sume of fifty shillings of like lawfull money to be paid unto her the said Susanna Walter imediately after my decease The rest and residue of all and singuler my ready money goods chattells wares merchandizes household stuffe and estate whatsoever I doe give and bequeath the same unto the said Thomas Cole and Abraham Chitty before named to be equally shared and divided betwixt them parte and parte like And I doe make joynt Executors of this my last Will and Testament And lastly I doe hereby revoke and make null all former Wills and Testamentary writeings whatsoever by me made and none of them to stand in force but this my will only In witnesse wheeof I the said Thomas Calloway to this my last Will and Testament containing three sheets of paper with this last sheet have sett my hand and seale to every sheet and affixed my seale to the whole the day and yeare in the first sheet first above written. Tho: Calloway. Sealed and delivered in the presence of John Wood Fra: Bunting Scr Sam: Prowst his servant.

PROBATION The probated matter is written in Latin, but it shows that it was brought into probate at the Prerogative Court of Canterbury in London on the 14th day of September 1686 by Thomas Cole and Abraham Chitty.

Ref. Film 92350 page 115, Genealogical Dept., Salt Lake City, Utah.

* The name “Joshua” is clearly written in the copy of the original recorded will. It must be an error for “Joseph” whose will later......SUW.

Note 3. This will seems to fit into the picture in some way......SUW

PCC 1656/258 - Nuncupative

Elizabeth Callaway of St. Michaels, Crooked Lane, London, spinster

21 Feb 1655/6; pr. 22 Dec 1656 by Mary Calloway in London.

Exors: John Symon and my cousin Coale

Witnesses: Rose Johnson, Mary Symes, Margaret Coale, John Gibbon

Bequests: Everything to Mary Calloway, my sister’s daughter.

[See Callaway Journal, Vol. IV, p. 62. Records submitted by Noell Currer-Briggs]

Note 4. Chancery Cases (abstracted by Noell Currer-Briggs; published in Callaway Journal, Vol. VI (1981), p. 93).

C6.168/33. 30 January 1663/4. Jeremiah Callaway of Southwark, merchant, and Martha his wife the only daughter and heir of William Gunthrop, late of St. Leonard’s, Shoreditch, Middlesex, esquire, deceased, and William Callaway, Jeremiah Callaway, Gunthrop Callaway, Thomas Callaway, Martha Callaway, Mary Callaway and Katherine Callaway, children of the said Jeremiah and Martha, being all infants under 21, are the plaintiffs in this case. The evidence is extremely voluminous, and there are inventories and accounts attached to the papers. The only genealogical evidence is as follows: In 1656 William Gunthrop lent Robert Thomas late of Richmond, Surrey, gent. since deceased, and Peter Browne, Citizen and Apothecary of London, L500. The security was a 500 year lease of Thomas’s property to Edmund King, Merchant Taylor of London called the Sign of the Gilded Cock, late in the tenure and occupation of Roger Hughes and then in the tenure and occupation of John King in Westcheap, Cheapside, in the parish of St. Pancras, London, together with other properties. William Gunthrop made his will in December 1662 and left money for the upbringing of his grandchildren named above, and other large legacies for each of them at the age of 21 or on marriage. Katherine Gunthrop, his relict, and Robert Cleyton, gent., who say that there is not enough money to pay the legacies. This is the subject of the dispute.

C2 Charles I. C126/10. 1663. The replication of Jeremiah Calloway and his wife and others to the answer of Katherine Gunthrop. Everything contended is “nonsence!” This is a very short ducoment and contains nothing of genealogical importance.

Note 5. Will of Jeremy Callaway of London, merchant. [Abstracted by Noell Currer-Briggs; published Callaway Journal, Vol IV, p.63 (1979).]

9 Sept 1691; pr. 9 Oct 1691 by exor in London.

Exor: George Richards

Witnesses: Robert Ward, John Warr, Thomas Newey (or Nevey), Jo: Abington

Bequests: To my brother Gunthorpe Callaway and to my four sisters, Martha Girdler, Mary Moore, Katherine Amy and Rebecca Dodsworth 10/ - each.

To Margaret Watts, bedding and wearing apparel

To Mr. Philip Richards a silver tobacco box, ring and watch, and plate as well as L 50.

To Mrs. Sarah Richards, his sister, L 50

To Captain Philip Forster 20/ -, John Warr and James Newey /20 each, John Abington of Coleman Street, 20/ -.

My freehold messuage, lands, etc. to George Richards of Gravel Lane in Houndsditch, merchant, as well as my leasehold property wherever situated.

Note 6. Will of Joseph Callaway of St. Thomas Southwark, son of Jeremiah Callaway, late of St. Thomas, Southwark, Citizen of London, dec’d. 20 August 1683

Pr. 3 Feb 1690/91 by exor in London.

Exor: Uncle, Thomas Cole

Witnesses: Philip Peirson, Mary Samms, Ann Sherman

Bequests: My father died intestate and what proportion I am to have of his estate is as yet unsettled and that I and my younger sister are the least provided for I therefore bequeath to my youngest sister Rebecca Callow (sic) half my estate which belongs to my child’s portion from my father. The rest to be divided into three parts, one of which I give to my eldest sister’s youngest daughter, Martha Girdler; one other to my sister Mary Moore’s son Benjamin and the third to my sister Katherine Amy’s eldest child.

To my uncle, Mr. Thomas Cole, living in St. Thomas, Southwark,, tallow chandler L5. [Sister Rebecca is under 21.]

[Note: The will of Thomas Calloway refers to brother JOSHUA Calloway, which must be an error for this brother, Joseph.......SUW]

[See Callaway Journal, Vol. IV (1979), p. 63]

Note 7. Marriage: Thomas Girdler of St Saviours, Southwark, Citizen and Girdler, bach. abt. 26 & Martha Callaway, spinster, abt. 18, daughter of Jeremiah Callaway of the same, Citizen and Cutler, who consents; at St Magdalen, Milk St. London, Newington or St Saviours, Southwark, Surrey. Vic-Gen. Mar. Lic. [Callaway Journal, Vol. IV (1979), p. 66.]

Note 8. Chancery case C5/99/83 and 86. [Currer-Briggs abstract]

14 November 1687. Bill of James Amey of London, grocer, and Katherine his wife, late daughter and one of the orphans of Jeremiah Callaway late Citizen and Cutler of London, deceased. Jeremiah Callaway died in 1682 intestate leaving no wife, whereby the administration of his goods and chattels did belong to Jeremiah Callaway of London, merchant, his eldest son who has since taken the administration of his late father’s estate upon him and possessed himself of the personal estate of the said intestate to the value of L1180.16s.9d.

In July 1683 before John Callaway Junior had exhibited an inventory of his father’s estate into the Court of Orphans, London, came to your orator and oratrix at sign of the Crowne in White Fryers and promised to pay the L110 the next day as part of your oratrix’s portion and pretending he did not know what was due to your orator in right of his wife, whether it was more than L110 or less till he had exhibited the inventory. He did obtain a general release of some other writings from your orator and oratrix on condition that if it should appear more was due to them according to the custom of the City of London (there being several other children of the said intestate) John Callaway Junior promised to pay them or Mr. Francis Lee a merchant in London for the use of your orator and oratrix whatsoever would appear to be due to them. Notwithstanding the general release this was done by word of mouth and not in writing, and John Callaway junior paid the L110 next morning. He has since cinfirmed his promise in writing by a letter addressed to your orator at the Five Sugar Loaves in Dublin, Viz: London, 19 March 1683/4. Loving sister; both yours received informing me you want L20 more if it be your due to buy your husband a place with what you have by you and likewise to acquaint you how the old concern among us - answer, that we have done nothing since you went neither do I know when we shall. I think they are unreasonable in their demands and especially in their claims unless they had better ground for what they do, I am sure ‘tis very hard that I should be aspersed for their imaginations when as yet they have not given themselves the perusal of the inventory. I know not as yet whether any more’s due to you. When I have done with them I do assure you I shall return you what more shall be your due. Your loving brother Jeremy Caloway (which letter your orator and oratrix are ready to produce).

Jeremy Callaway had since exhibited an inventory to the Court of Orphans, London and did charge the estate of the said intestate with L242 more than he ought, which the Alderman’s Court said should not have been charged. It now appears that your orator and oratrix should have a further L126, but Jeremy Callaway junior refuses to pay it. [The answer to this Bill of Complaint is extremely hard to read and appears to contain no genealogical evidence, and does not name the other children of John Callaway senior.]

Note 9. Chancery Case C5/399/66 - [transcribed by Currer-Briggs; Journal Vol. VI, p. 91]

Bill of complaint of John Dodsworth, gent. and Rebecca his wife the daughter of Jeremiah Callaway late of London, cutler, deceased. Jeremiah Callaway had a considerable estate consisting of money, jewels, rings, etc, bonds, bills stock worth L5000 which was more than enought to satisfy his debts. He died in 1682 intestate leaving issue seven children, viz. Jeremiah his oldest son, Gunthorpe, Martha, Mary, Katherine, Joseph and your oratrix Rebecca. Younger children, two of which younger children viz. Martha and Mary were provided for by Jeremiah in his lifetime. Martha, your oratirix Rebecca’s mother having died before Jeremiah, she and the other younger children apprehending by the endeavor of Rebecca’s elder brother that he desired to get into his hand all the personal estate of their father and that he wanted to embezzle the same so that Rebecca and the younger children would be defeated of their dividend of the estate. The younger children entered a caveat to prevent Jeremiah junior Letters of Administration till such time as they should be secured of their dividends. Jeremiah tried to get Rebecca and the younger children to withdraw the caveat. They agreed on condition that Jeremiah the son would give them their portions but now he refuses to do so as he has invested the money in his business. Joseph Calloway, Rebecca’s brother, was entitled to his share but he died and in his will dated August 1683 of which he made Thomas Cole of St Thomas, Sothwark executro, bequeathed as follows: “Whereas my late father died intestate and what proportion I am to have of his estate is as yet unsettled and that I and my youngest sisters are the least provided for, I do therefore give unto my youngest sister Rebecca Callaway half of my estate, goods and chattles that I am posses of or to which I am entitled.” The will was proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury. John Dodsworth and Rebecca his wife now claim Joseph’s half-share. Jeremiah Junior and Thomas Cole have combined together to defraud Rebecca of her share and she seeks remedy at law. [Answer missing.]

Note 10. Will of Richard Calloway of Huntstone, Sussex, clerk - 16 Sept 1654; pr. 16 Oct 1654 by exor at Westminster. PCC 1654/ 226 [Currer-Briggs, Journal Vol. IV, p. 61]

Exor: Brother Jeremy Calloway

Supervisors: Brother Thomas Calloway and brother-in-law Thomas Scardevill

Witnesses: Thomas Peckham, Henry Bowyer

Bequests: To brother John Calloway of Chichester, Sussex L5

Rings to my brother Thomas Calloway of Southwark and sister Mary Butcher

of Southwark

Sister Elizabeth Scardevill of Chichester, Sussex

Sister Margaret Cole a bed and bedding

To my cousins William Calloway, son of my brother Jeremy (under 21) /20

My cousin Mary Scardevill, daughter of my brother Thomas Scardevill all

my books

To my uncle Redwick of Chichester, Sussex /20

To my servant Jone Pitt /20

Residue to my brother Jeremiah Calloway.

Note 11. The reference to the John Sr and John Jr remains unclear. There is mention of Taunton. Could this be a link? - Court Leet of the Borough of Taunton, Appendix D: A List Of Persons Who Have Served The Office of Constable Of the Borough of Taunton Since The Year 1426:

1523 John Eston, John Calowe

1526 John Calowe, Sr., John Adms.

1529 John Calowe, John Toose

1533 Robert Horsey, John Calowe

1541 Bengy Henley, John Calowe

1547 John Callowe, William Horsey

[from “Somerset Archaelogical and Natural History Society Proceedings, Vol. 55 (1909)]

These are early references, but indicate they were holders of property in Taunton. Identifying their property may offer additional clues to this family......SUW.

Note 12. Chancery Case C5/390/23. [Currer-Briggs; Journal Vol. V, p. 40.]

1651. James Callaway and Martha his wife, Richard Callaway, Thomas Callaway, Mary Butcher widow, Christopher Pym and Michael Pym. Mentions Thomas Callaway, Sr. of Chichester. The Bill of Complaint is missing.....this is a fragment only. There is an Answer of Jeremiy Callaway to the Bill of John Callaway with references to Taunton and to a bond of L150.

[Note by SUW: The relationship of Christopher & Michael Pym remains unknown or unexplained. However their appearance here suggests a few “twists and turns” regarding this family, as shown below]:

Will of Daniel Kelway of _________, London, Citizen and Girdler - PCC 1674/8

13 Dec 1673; pr. 14 Jan 1673/4 by exor in London.

Witnesses: Christopher Pym, Katherine Ambler

Sole beneficiary and executor, my kinsman Robert Webb of the Middle Temple, London, gent.

[Currer-Briggs, Journal Vol. IV, p. 63]

This item opens up a whole new can of worms which must be dealt with as a separate discourse. It involves Jeremiah Calloway, trading in Maryland, and also includes our good friend Anthony Calloway (Salloway/Salway) of Maryland. All speculation hangs on the appearance of Christopher Pym in these two documents and also the “kinsman Robert Webb of the Middle Temple.” We understand the implications of Robert Webb involved in this, but what is the significance of Christopher Pym.....and who is he?

.........................................................

A few “left-over” notes that may relate:

1640 Thomas Calloway s/o John chr. Aug 23, Middleton By Bognor, Sussex

1777 Jeremiah Kalloway s/o Jeremiah & Elizabeth chr. May 4, St Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London.

From: Sherrill Wiliams
Sent: Nov 18, 2004
Subject: Daniel Kelway & Robert Webb

Morning All,
Bruce says we may be casting our net too wide, but I think the last cast caught a BIG ONE. I refer you to discussion we had with Kathryn Payne from mid-Nov to early Dec 2003 (available at KellChat - please refer to it). The subject was Kelways at Preston Plucknet and a chart headed by "Robert Kelway of Rockborne" whose wife was a Berrington. A number of descendantswere listed, including DANIEL KELWAY and ROBERT WEBB who were shown to be 1st cousins.
Then we looked at the will of Walter Berrington of Frome Selwood, Somerset who named his "brother" Robert C/K "of Lillington." Robert was no doubt a "brother-in-law" of Walter Berrington, having married a sister of Walter. "Robert of Lillington" could be no other than the son (or grandson - but I think son_ of Henry K. who inherited "Lillington" from his uncle Martin. Henry's son, Robert, turns up in some of the chancery cases involving Henry's mishandling of Lillington, against Martin's wishes set forth in his will.
Folks, I am convinced that the so-called "Robert of Rockborne" of Preston Plucknet is really "Robert of Lillington" as shown in Walter Berrington's will.
Thus, I think we will be quite safe in hanging the Kelways of Preston Plucknet on our Sherborne/Stalbridge C/K tree - as descendants of Robert Kayleway & Joan Marshall of Lillington.
This makes Daniel Kelway and Robert Webb quite relevant; how the Chichester/Southwark group might tie-in remains to be seen. Christopher Pym's name suggested a link but who he is remains a mystery. John Pym "of Somerset" held an important position with the Crown - and Roger Pym held the manor of Woolavington Pym (formerly part of Woolavington manor) in Somerset.
We shall have to see how this all plays out. Your thoughts will be of interest.
Sherrill

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Nov 19, 2004
Subject: Daniel Kelway & Robert Webb

Sherrill,

For the record, and only because it is now being picked up by search engines and your own personal computer, the will of Walter Berriman of Frome Somerset, dated 11 March 1600 and proved 20 Nov. 1600 comes from "Somerset Wills, i, 30, Crisp F.A (Ed) "Abstracts of Somerset Wills copied from the Manuscript collection of the late Rev. F. Brown" 6 vols. dated 1887! We have never sighted the actual will yet it assumes so much importance.

Lets track back from Daniel K/C ,and lets be frank he was fairly constantly referred to as Kelway both in Maryland where he grew and marketed tobacco, married, died, pursued debts and appointed a London firm of lawyers and a known executor in the early 1600s. If we can further relate him, which seems possible back to Lillington, we will have been successful in spanning 600 odd years. I doubt that he was the '1640 Peter', but the exciting prospect that he was an antecedent or indeed a rel of 'Joe' will need to be disproved!

Interesting times.

Bruce

From: Brian Kelway Willoughby
Sent: Nov 19, 2004
Subject: Daniel Kelway & Robert Webb

Dear Sherrill and co-workers,

Most interesting. Maybe I can help? Or further confuse? (And further to my 01:21 earlier today)

I know some of you are aware of errors in The Visitation of Somerset and the City of Bristol 1672 (Harleian Society
New Series Vol 11 1992 - specifically the Pedigree of "Keylway Preston Plucknet" on page 160 - but just in case

anybody relies on it for current or future work, I thought that perhaps I should (re)spread the word.

Briefly, in 1997 I queried with the College of Arms some of the published detail of this Visitation - and received back

a remarkable admission of error and an apology, from one of the Heralds (Chester) - who are of course the ultimate

authority and, almost by definition, infallible!

The correction to the published version may not have any direct bearing on your hypothesis, Sherrill - but I feel that

you (all) would wish at least to be aware of it at this time.

Basically the Keylway pedigree as published " had omitted a generation ... "

"The eldest son of Robert Keylway of Rockburne ... was:

Robert Keylway of Gray's Inn, Barrister ... who had issue:

Thomas Keylway of Preston Plucknett ... Aged 35 in 1672

........ ."

As it happens I have been exchanging letters again with Chester Herald, during the last few weeks, chiefly to make

quite sure that I am interpreting correctly the revised version of the pedigree, and he has officially blessed my revised

text below (Encl A).

All the best

Brian

PS Chester Herald (Timoth Duke) has been most helpful - but I am still minded of a slightly mangled version of

the verse by John Collins Bossidy 1860-1928 (Oxford Dictionary of Quotations):

(And this is good old Boston

the home of the bean and the cod)

where researchers speak to the Heralds

but the Heralds speak only to God.

PPS Perhaps a seond error in the Visitation is/was in attributing the first Robert of the pedigree to "Rockbourne" ???

ENCLOSURE A - CORRECTED VERSION

Visitation of Somerset and the City of Bristol 1672

KEYLWAY OF PRESTON PLUCKNET

Note

The 1672 Visitation material on this family

which was published by the Harleian Society

in 1992 as New Series Volume 11 (p160) has

recently been found to contain some errors.

Corrections have been provided by the

College of Heralds

and are incorporated below.

I. ROBERT KEYLWAY gent of Rockburne in Com. Southton mar.

da: & heire of ????? Berington of ????? and had issue

1. Robert of whom below (II)

2. Thomas Keylway of Wick in Com Wilts 2d Son mar: ????? da:

of ????? Daniel of Marlborugh in Com Wilts and had issue

i Thomas ii Charles iii Daniel iv Robert v William

i Anne ii Elizabeth iii Jane iv Mary

3. William Keylway of London mar: Ann da: of ????? Wormly of

????? and had issue

i Jane ii Elizabeth iii Mary

1. Frances mar: to Nicholas Webb of Marshfeild in co: Glouc and

had issue

i William ii Nicholas iii Robert

i Mary

II. Robert Keylway of Gray's Inn, Barrister. Married

Mary, da: of Richard Whaly of Screaton [?Screveton] co:

Nottingham, by whom he had issue

Thomas Keylway of Preston Plucknett co: Somerset.

Son and heir. Aged 35 in 1672. Married Jane,

da: and coheir of Edward Hodges of Lufton co:

Somerset

T KEYLWAY

BHKW 15/01/98

(Adjusted 01/11/04)

[I have inserted ????? in blank spaces]

From: Sherrill Williams
Sent: Nov 19, 2004
Subject: Daniel Kelway & Robert Webb

Thanks, Brian. Henry, s/o John K. of Bapton (s/o Robert & Joan Marshall of Lillington) had both a son and a grandson named Robert. We also have a few notes on a court case involving the Robert/Mary Whaley couple. I will check this out further. I think that "Preston Plucknet" [whatever it is] is in Wiltshire,
due to other descendants appearing in Wilts parish registers (the Webbs, particularly). Also in this family is the rector of [St James?] church in
Trowbridge whose name we discovered on a plaque in the church - which we ducked into one day to escape a rain shower. Some of the parishioners were in the church preparing for Sunday services; they knew nothing of their "dear Robert" so we kindly informed them, having just found him during our research in Wilts RO.
Sherrill

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Nov 20, 2004
Subject: Daniel Kelway & Robert Webb

Brian et al,

Thank you for supplying Sherrill with a likely Daniel (b.ca.1628, father Thomas b.ca.1608 and mother a Miss Daniel of Marlborough) Also, an appropriate Webb. All this from the veritable 'ants nest' of Somerset K/Cs of the time. It seems highly likely that said Daniel with an uncle Robert (b.ca1607) Barrister of Grey's Inn, was the 'citizen and girdler of London' whose will appears in "Proceedings of 1674 from the Records Court, Province of Maryland" Pages 7 & 8 Sherrill's attachment "Anthony and Jeremiah in America".

Put that aside as I understand it will take a bit of following, as does the wretched 'ants nest' to which I refer. Daniel's grandpappy, according to the corrected version of the 1672 Visitation to Somerset was Robert KEYLWAY gent of Rockburne who married Walter Berrington's daughter. That the visitation is entitled KEYLWAY OF PRESTON PLUCKNET is understandably causing confusion because the informant was obviously the Grey's Inn barrister's son and heir Thomas (b.1637) who was living there at the time, and this was not the first association of the family with the name 'Plucknet'

You may recall from the famous Martin Keileway will after his death at NETHER LILLINGTON in 1575 his bequest to the two KELWAY girls, Johan who had married a William Plucknet at Purse Caundle, Somerset 12 Sept.1559 and produced 9 children, and Cecelia (Sisley) Kelway who married David (Davey) Plucknet 29. Nov.1562. The boys' father was Wylyam Plucknet of Milborne Port (died 1540) and the girls' father was William KAILEWAY deceased and late of Stalbridge.

Sherbourne/Stalbridge/Lillington/Preston Plucknet/Yeovil/Purse Caundle etc. appear to be within a stone's throw of each other. Given that the family were very fertile and had the habit of throwing the name Robert into successive generations, we have probably done well to have sorted out a few of them by whom they married, but original copies of some wills rather than abstracts is required if we are to progress.

Bruce

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Nov 29, 2004
Subject: Robert Keylway - letter to William Oughtred

This should work! If you click on each of the pics you should have an enlarged view and attached is my interpretation (with gaps) of what said Robert has written. Any suggestions for the gaps would be appreciated. You will shortly be hearing a lot more about this guy Robert Keylway, Barrister (attorney) of Grey's Inn London, one of the (ordinary) Masters of Chancery of England. Brian's 1672 visitation pedigree of Robert Keylway, (written by his son Thomas of Preston Plucknett), indicated that his father was Robert Keylway gent of Rockbourne (b.c.1577).

William Oughtred (1575-1660) M.A.(Eton & Cambridge), an Anglican clergyman and mathematician is generally regarded as inventor of both the circular and rectilinear slide rule in addition to other scientific instruments designed for cartography and celestial navigation including the "Quadrature of a Circle" referred to in the letter.

Of more moment is the fact that this Robert was witnessing documents relating to Maryland at the very time that the 1640 Peter was there. Not only this, but his nephew Daniel (1628-1673) described as citizen and girdler of London was a trader and resident of Maryland, and both were associated with and related to Robert Webb (of the Middle Temple) who also appears in the Archives of Maryland. Thanks to Sherrill we may be on to something big!

Bruce

Letter from Robert KEYLWAY to William Oughtred
(October 26 1645)
Language: English
Author: Keylway, Robert
Publications: Rigaud, vol.I, pp.63-64, no.23.

By the small, yet favourable conversation you have been released sometime heretofor to bestow upon one, I am encouraged to request so much more thereof, but Yet other emotions and studies of greater moment, may (at least ……….., if not ……..) permit. O…. For an entrance into sure ……’I make my Self an object to your further……., intreating, That your exchange of……, may return more a Relation of the most material used, whereunto an ….. Quadrature of a Circle is applyable; thereto I shall so refresh my late hard study & labours to attayne an ability to appear before the authority of your judgment an infallible demonstration thereof, when….. convenience & privacy your desirable …… shall comfort & honour

London.8. 26 1645
Your friend
In assured affection
And in submissive ………
Servant
Robert Keylway

From: Bill Piper
Sent: Nov 29, 2004
Subject: Robert Keylway - letter to William Oughtred

Dear Bruce,
Permit me (respectfully!) to suggest a few amendments and a little gap-filling to your transcription of the letter.
I wish Robert had written in plain English! But then, this was a mere 29 years after the death of W Shakespeare and just 4 years before Charles I lost his head.
Great stuff.
You may need a mathematician to fill in the word before Quadrature. (Anyone there?)
TTFN
Bill

Letter from Robert KEYLWAY to William Oughtred 26 Oct,1645

By the small, yet favourable conversation you have been pleased sometime heretofor to bestow upon me, [mee] I am encouraged to request as much more thereof, as your other ~~emotions~~ [erasions ??] and studies of greater moment, may (at least missively [ie. by letter], if not reasonably[?] ) permit. O…. For an entrance into sure enter----- I make my Self an object to your further……., intreating, That your exchange of a paper [?], may return ~~more~~ me a relation of the most material uses, whereunto an [ex—t] Quadrature of a Circle is applyable; thereto I shall so refresh my late hard study & labours to attayne an ability to expose[?] before the authority of your judgment an infallible demonstration thereof, when….. convenience & privacy your desirable presence[?] shall comfort & honour

London. 8. 26 1645
Your friend
In assured affection
And in submissive reverence
Servant
Robert Keylway

From: Sherrill Williams
Sent: Nov 30, 2004
Subject: Robert Keylway - letter to William Oughtred

OK, so it took me a long time to get my "kitchen" out of the car and back in place. Then, I had an appointment with the "eye doctor" Tuesday afternoon, so restrained myself for a bit. I have been reading everything right along, even down in Atlanta. I will say "Oughtred" is beyond my education! I could not get the letter enlarged enough to read it, so could not help out with the "translation." However, all of you seem to be doing rather well at that. So let's clear up the ROBERTS for Warwick.

Warwick, "Robert K. of Rockborne" as shown on the Preston Plucknett pedigree is another error, made by either the editor of the published version, or the Heralds, or the person submitting the information. I suspect one of the first two. That pedigree is headed by Robert K. whose wife was ............Berrington. That reminded us of the will of Walter Berrington in which he refers to his "brother Robert K. "of Lillington." So, we are assuming (and I think correctly) that the Robert of Preston Plucknett is the son of "troublesome Henry" who inherited the "Lillington" property from his uncle Martin K. in 1575. Thus, when you revise your tree, the Preston Plucknett family should descend from:

I Robert K. & wife, Joan Marshall

A. Martin K. (will 1575)

B. John K. of Bapton, Wilts

1. Henry K. (inherited Lillington)

a. Robert K. "of Lillington" [not Rockborne] mar. a sister of Walter BERRINGTON.

and so on, according to the tree.

I don't have this tree in front of me so am winging it somewhat. But, Cameron has asked me about the William Kellaway who died in York Co, VA. I believe he may be an uncle of our new "legal Robert K." Once again the pedigree of Preston Plucknett lets us down. It shows a William Kellaway married to Ann Wormley, but this is in conflict with data supplied by Noel Currer-Briggs, published in CFA Journal IV (1979), p. 56. In N C-B's version, taken from chancery cases, etc. it is shown that Henry K. married Ann Wormley, sister of Ralph Wormley (the Preston Plucknett pedigree shows no Henry K.), Supposedly Henry is brother of the William K. who died in York Co, VA. The William K. who died in York, VA was married to Agatha Eltonhead, who, as second husband, married Ralph Wormley. Henry K. and wife, Ann Wormley, lived at St Andrews, Holborn, London at the time he (and shortly after she) gave depositions in a chancery case. Henry had died when Ann gave her deposition. So apparently Thomas K. of Preston Plucknett, who supplied his family data to the heralds, did not know about Henry, or confused him with William (who Thomas said married Ann Wormley, but who actually married Agatha Eltonhead). Is this at all clear??

Wake up Pat, you will like this! Just before our holiday I made contact with Wanda Garrett of Newfoundland, Canada whose husband descends from Henry Kellaway of Bradford Abbas, Dorset. Wanda was going away for the weekend, also, so we have not yet re-connected.

Henry Kellaway's wife was Rebecca [Unknown] and he was buried at Bradford Abbas 1 Feb 1761. There is record of 2 children baptised at Bradford Abbas and Clifton Maybank:

John Kellaway, s/o of Henry bapt 21 Oct 1717

Rebecca Kellaway, d/o Henry & Rebecca bapt. 5 Nov 1720, Clifton Maybank. Rebecca Kellaway married Richard Garrett, 1754 at Bradford Abbas. There were two known children:

Rebecca Garrett bapt 1 Feb 1757, Bradford Abbas

Henry Garrett bapt 16 Dec 1759, Bradford Abbas. [Henry Garrett relocated to Newfoundland, Canada and is the 5Xgreat grandfather of Wanda's husband.] Newfoundland seems to have been a magnet for our C/K relatives.

This should prove that I am now back at home, and paying attention.

Sherrill

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Nov 30, 2004
Subject: Robert Keylway - letter to William Oughtred

Hello all

All this Oughtred business has been happening while we were away enjoying some R&R at the bach. It is really great to have Robert's letter, and to have the connections that are potentially very valuable. Have to admit I am still trying to comprehend what the content of the letter is all about, but it is slowly filtering through.

It is curious that Robert was involved with mathematical thought, but the educated men then had matriculated from Oxford or Cambridge, and obtained degrees from the Universities (I found a list of C/Ks from Oxford, provided by Bill a year or so back). The courses would have been very comprehensive, and while largely classical, presumably included mathematics. Apart from University graduates, few others would have had any real knowledge of mathematics.

Co-incidentally, over the weekend I was looking back over past notes (good thing to do occasionally), and decided that apart from other aspects, my 5-6 year old tree at the rear of my original Chronicles, is out of date. Surprise surprise! New information has given us a lot more evidence, and it definitely needs reworking.

Among some other sorting out I was attempting - mainly to try and resolve what I consider considerable confusion in Dorset in the 1500s, and see whether there is any clarity now with the Isle of Wight connection (could be) - I was looking at the Roberts.

Has anyone checked who this "new" Robert might be?

OK I won't get back to Robert W&L, but we do have information on some of the others. Looking at their dates and lineage, we have one, the third son of Thomas the younger, son of William of Stalbridge, and Elizabeth Joanes. His eldest brother Richard I recall was among those listed somewhere as matriculating. His birth date I think would match the new Robert's father as about 1580.

My impression had been that most of his family lived in or around Stoford, near Sherborne and Yeovil (hasn't someone mentioned Yeovil lately?), but that might not have been the case for all the sons, particularly when well educated. Robert had an uncle Robert, and great uncle Robert, one of whom had a daughter Alice who married William Gawen, admitted to the Inner Temple by Robert W&L in 1534. So he could have taken up law.

The mysterious factor is the reference to the "new" Robert's father being described as "of Rockbourne". There is no reference anywhere that I am aware of to a "Robert" relating to Rockbourne, and neither ffrancis nor his son Thomas, who finally lost the manor there, had any sons named Robert. ffrancis was something of a ratbag, and his son something of a mess, so it is difficult to imagine Robert having any relationship with them. Presumably no-one from the family lived at the manor, or the village, after the loss, although Thomas's daughter Loue did live on there somewhere until she died in 1631. Could cousin Robert have lived with her for some time? Is it possible she had her own house, and he took it over, when she died at 55?

So many Roberts, and so many legal Roberts!

If none of this is correct, who was that Robert of Rockbourne?

What do you think?

Warwick

From: Kermit Bridges
Sent: Nov 30, 2004
Subject: Robert Keylway - letter to William Oughtred

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/941_quad_circle.html

Hello all,
The above link gives some insight into the “quadrature of a circle”. Lends credence to “exact” being the intended word in the missive. This writing precedes the Oughtred missive by more than 100 years. It interests me that these cerebral gentlemen could get so involved and consumed by such abstract matters. They must not have had TV and football and the stock market to be absorbed with. This guy did manage to connect the process back to the Almighty in a manner which I am not sure will survive rational scrutiny. I will be glad to elaborate on any aspects of the treatise which are not straightforward—ha! Just kidding to be sure. Kermit and Gloria June

From: Bill Piper
Sent: Nov 30, 2004
Subject: Robert Keylway - letter to William Oughtred

A couple of people have talked of translating the Oughtred letter, and that seemed a good idea. I hope no one is getting tired of it. I thought it might help identify the remaining few difficult words. It didn't.

However I suggest the following near the end: "...thereof when-so-ever convenience and privacy....". What is that thing like a 3? It seems to be used whenever he doesn't know how to spell something!

Anyway here is my suggested liberal translation, retaining most of the grovelling.

Following the brief but useful discussion you recently granted me, I am hopeful that we might meet again for a similar discourse for as long as your other affairs and your more significant studies permit, at least by letter if not personally.

I submit myself entirely to your generosity, requesting that, by exchange of written papers, you would relate how the exact Quadrature of a Circle may be applied. This would be of the greatest material use to me,

To that end I shall work very hard to submit an infallible demonstration of it for you to make an authoritative judgement of my case [and I hope this may take place] whenever it is convenient to you to do me the honour.

Bill

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Dec 5, 2004
Subject: Gerard/Jerrard

Sherrill,

I would hope that since your "Never fear I'm here" Warwick is sorting out the Roberts. Meantime, I am in all sorts of trouble with the events in Maryland circa 1640. Given the enthusiasm of Bill and Brian in succesfully interpreting the Oughtred letter, I now with trepidation ask them for a legal interpretation!

Said Robert was involved (possibly only in his capacity as a Master of the Chancery) in witnessing a dispute between a George Thompson and a Dr. Thomas Gerrard on the one hand and the dear Doctor and 'his brother' Abell Snowe of Cursitors Office Chancery Lane London on the other. It would seem that there was 'dirty work at the crossroads' in that Abell had originally financed Gerrard to go to Maryland where he subsequently became hugely successful and married Abell's sister Sussanah Snowe, but along the way he was reselling property viz. 5000 acres of prime tobacco country in Maryland around St. Charles and St. Mary's counties to the unfortuntate and hapless Thompson, 10 years after he had assigned it to Abell, thence to Abell's Mum and finally to Abell's brother Marmaduke in repayment of his original debt!

I attach (again with trepidation) the numerous pages from the Archives of Maryland detailing the above precedings. Read or delete them, but first ponder what I am on about. Robert of Lillington's daughter Emme(Emma) married a Christian Gerrard, whilst Isabella Strangeway quite some time previously had married a Sir Peter Gerrard. This requires close attention! Sir John of Rockbourne's (1470-1547) first wife was an Anne Strangeways.

I realise that this is terribly difficult and it may well be that the confluence of names around the time of the 1640 Peter is a red herring, however as can be subsequently shown, Robert Keylway's nephew Daniel was also in Maryland, as was their rel Robert Webb of the Middle Temple. I guess that what I am attempting to show is a family, legal and commercial link to the early settelment of the New World which was in full swing by the time that the 1640 Peter K/C was recorded into history. The total population of Maryland at this time had to be numbered only in the thousands. Anyone interested?

Bruce

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Dec 5, 2004
Subject: Gerard/Jerrard

Dr. Thomas Gerard^{(142)
(1)} was born on 10 Dec 1608 in Lancashire, England. He died on 19 Oct 1673 in Mochoticks, Westmoreland, Co. Virginia. Dr. Thomas Gerard, Gentleman, was baptized in Winwick Prish, New Hall, Lancashire, England 10 Dec 1608. He was the son of John Gerard and Isabel ? of New Hall and the grandson of Thomas Gerard and Jane of Garswood. (Md Archives Liber XL11 folio 543).

The Gerard family was an ancient and prominent Roman Catholic family whose history has been traced back to the time of the General Survey of the Kingdom 1078.

Thomas Gerard married Susannah Snowe, daughter of John Snowe and Judith ? of Brookehouse, Staffordshire, England by 20 Jun 1634 (The Lancashire Record Office).

Thomas Gerard, surgeon, came into the Province of MD by April 1638 with five men servants (Md Land Office Patents Liber 1, folio 19). After several trips between Maryland and England, Thomas Gerard sold his holdings in England. On 19 Sep 1650 he demanded 2,000 acres of land for transporting himself, his wife and 5 chidren, a Mr Austin Hill, 8 men servants and 4 women servants in to the Province (Md Land office Patents L AB&H, f 47).

Thomas Gerard became one of the largest land owners in Maryland. on 3 Nov 1639, he was issued one of the first manorial grants to be issued in St Mary's Co. He acquired a patent for 1,030 acres he called "St Clement's Manor" (Md Land Office Patents Liber AB&H, Folio 68). This patent included St Clement's Island, the landing place of the first Maryland settlers in 1634. With this patent, he also achieved the status of "Lord of the Manor". On 24 Mar 1651, Thomas Gerard received a patent of 1,500 acres, he called "Bastford Manor" and a patent of 500 acres for I'St Winifred's Freehold" (Ibid. Folio 193-194). Thomas Gerard also acquired 3,500 acres of land called Gerard's Preserve" in Westmoreland County Virginia. He continued to acquire lands and at the time of his death his holdings contained about 16,000 acres.

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Since Thomas Gerard's wife Susannah and their children were Protestant, he erected an Anglican Chapel for them on St Clement's Manor. According to Edwin Beitzell's writings the chapel was erected "at the head of a branch of St Patrick's Creek". It was the third Protestant church to be erected in Maryland.

Thomas Gerard, the surgeon, practiced medicine in Maryland and Virginia. He was also very active in the provincial politics of his day. He served as juryman at St Mary's in May 1638, elected a burgess to the assembly from St Mary's on 19 Feb 1639, commissioned by the Proprietor as "Conservator of the Peace" in March 1640 and elected burgess from St Clement's Hundred in Sep 1640. Thomas Gerard was appointed to the Provincial Council by a commission from Lord Baltimore, dated 17 Nov 1643. He held this position until he aligned himself with the Fendall Rebellion of 1660. With the collapse of the rebellion, Thomas Gerard was banished. He went to live in Westmoreland Co Virginia until he was pardoned by the Maryland council and was restored to citizenship in the Province but was forbidden to hold office (Md Archives Liber III, folio 406-407).

Susannah (Snowe) Gerard died in 1666 St Clement's Manor. Thomas moved to "Gerard's Preserve" in Westmoreland County Virginia. It was there that he married Mrs. Rose Tucker.

Thomas died in Virginia in 1673 and he was taken to Maryland and buried beside his first wife, Susannah Snowe. In his will he stated - "Testator desires to be buried by deceased wife Susanna". His will was dated 5 Feb 1672 and it was probated in St Mary's County 15 Dec 1673 (Md Cal of Wills L 1 f 567).
Dr. Thomas Gerard, Gentleman, was baptized in Winwick Prish, New Hall, Lancashire, England 10 Dec 1608. He was the son of John Gerard and Isabel ? of New Hall and the grandson of Thomas Gerard and Jane of Garswood. (Md Archives Liber XL11 folio 543).

The Gerard family was an ancient and prominent Roman Catholic family whose history has been traced back to the time of the General Survey of the Kingdom 1078.

Thomas Gerard married Susannah Snowe, daughter of John Snowe and Judith ? of Brookehouse, Staffordshire, England by 20 Jun 1634 (The Lancashire Record Office).

Thomas Gerard, emmigrated to St. Mary's County, Maryland. He and his family resided at St. Clements Manor. It was there that Thomas Gerard built a chapel. He apparently allowed interdenominational worship, [Susanna and the children were non Catholic,Thomas was Catholic] however ,the localRoman Catholic priest said that the arrangement was not allowed.He [the priest] apparently said he would come and live among them to see that the Catholic religion was practiced.

Susanna is buried at Longworth's Point, directly overlooking [in St. Clement's Manor] the cite where the Ark and the Dove first landed in Maryland. Thomas her widower, went to Virginia, married a "Rose"-----widow of John Tucker, and had issue. However, Thomas when near death, requested to be returned to Maryland and be buried next to his spouse, Susanna Parents: John Gerard and Isabel.

He was married to Susanna Snowe on 21 Sep 1629 in Lancashire, England. Children were: Susannah Gerard, Frances Gerard, Temperance Gerard, Elizabeth Gerard, Gerard, Mary Gerard, Justinian Gerard, Thomas Gerard, John Gerard.

Thomas Gerard⁽¹⁾ was born in 1640 in St. Clements Manor, Maryland. He died in Ecclesfield, Yorkshire, England. Parents: Dr. Thomas Gerard and Susanna Snowe.

Thomas Gerard^{(2)
(1)} was born about 1540 in Newhall, Ashton-in-Makerfield

From: Sherrill Williams
Sent: Dec 5, 2004
Subject: Gerard/Jerrard

Okay Guys, everyone is busy and on the search. I think this is great! I have found the Gerrard family to be intriguing, since learning that they did not seem to be a "local" family as regards the C/Ks. However, the author of the thesis on MPs from Devon & Dorset, John Charles Roberts, housed in Devon & Cornwall Record Society collection, West Country Studies Library, Exeter, suggests that the Christopher Gerrard, MP from Wareham, 1588, was the one married to Emelyn, d/o Robert C/K of Lillington. These Gerrards are of the Isle of Purbeck according to Mr. Roberts, but prior to that uncertain.

There were also a number of Gerrards (often spelled Jerrard) in Wellington, Somerset who associated with our Wellington C/Ks, at least regarding witnessing wills, etc. This appears to be a large family residing all over the landscape as so many others did. It is important to see where the Gerrard family might lead us.

Regarding our "dear Peter" of VA/MD, I am still somewhat interested in his association with James Jones of Monmouthshire, Wales who lived in Northampton/Accomac, Va (borders Somerset, MD). By the way, Bruce, the "K" spelling is used for Peter in some of the earliest Maryland land documents. The interesting thing about this, to me, is that Thomas K. "the younger" married Elizabeth Jones, d/o Davy Jones and Elizabeth left to her son, Richard K. of Stoford, Barwick [Som. - near Yeovil] some land in Monmouthshire. Is there a link here? We have at least one named Peter C/K dangling from our Sherborne/Stalbridge family tree, with very little information about him - and nothing about possible descendants.

I have recently uncovered reference to a Chancery case involving a Peter Kaylway (with perhaps a wife Alice), but the reference # to the case is not one currently used at the PRO (now Natl. Archives). Our multiple pedigrees of the Stalbridge clan are confusing about which generation their Peter belongs to. Perhaps that can be cleared up. I may have to assign this to Bill Piper as a phone call to the PRO could reveal the proper reference number.

Warwick is again on to the Thomas (of Rockborne connections). I refer you to a message I sent not too long ago about Roger Wyke. Roger Wyke married as his 1st wife, Joan Bingham, widow of Thomas Callaway. Through this marriage, Roger got his toe in the Rockborne manor door, and when his wife's (Joan Bingham) cousin died, also acquired Sutton Bingham. Roger Wyke appears on the list of "presenters" at Sutton Bingham soon after Thomas Callaway drops from the list. The Wyke story suggests the dates for Thomas Callaway's death, and Roger's marriage date to Joan Bingham Callaway. All of this is helpful in getting our people in the correct time frame - something the "pedigrees" have muddled up.

Pat reminds me, regarding the Preston Plucknett pedigree, that we were able to extend some of those family lines from our work at Trowbridge, the Wiltshire Record Office several years ago. We will put this together for you when we get out of "holiday mode" [can't say 'Christmas' any longer, apparently!]. Pat is preparing for a cruise, and I must "gussie up" my house for the annual family invasion. But, I do continue to work on all this when "resting."

Sherrill

From: Warwick Kellaway
Sent: Dec 5, 2004
Subject: Gerard/Jerrard

Bruce

You have done well with the Gerard in Maryland tangle. Again Robert appears. In this case I am not sure that he had any association other than in the law courts, but the Gerard name, and of course Maryland, is worth pursuing.

There were Gerard family connections a century earlier, but it would be necessary to sort through the Gerard tree/s to find anything at that time. Thomas evidently had taken the opportunity to move to a new land where he could assume considerably more status than would have been possible back home - where he would never have been "Lord of the Manor". A true early emigrant entrepreneur - we had them here two centuries later.

He does appear to have lived much further north in England than our own people. Families such as the Gerards were presumably of import over some centuries, there were not many of them, consequently they continue to appear the records, as we did, over a long period of time.

The importance here is that Robert is recorded again, and with regard to Maryland.

No doubt more to come.

Warwick

From: Bruce Callaway
Sent: Dec 7, 2004
Subject: Robert Keylway - letter to William Oughtred

Still working backwards from Maryland in the '1640 Peter hunt'. Thanks to Kathryn Paynes' excellent Rootsweb article from the Webb-L Archives a number of I's dotted with what we had from the 1672 visitation to Preston Plucknett. A lot of detail from Kathryn has been left out in order to make it readable.

As has previously been pointed out this was the second time that the Webbs crossed with the K/Cs, but the 'alias' business was a century before? Any corrections or comments appreciated.

Bruce

THE TRAIL FROM THE MIDDLE TEMPLE OF LONDON TO MARYLAND 17^th CENTURY

The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (DNB) features a very famous K/C viz. Robert (1497-1581) known to researchers of the CFA as Robert of the Wards and Liveries, because of his appointment to sell Monasteries and Chan tries belonging to the Catholic Church after Henry V111 tempestuous break with the church.

Robert, in discharging his duties from the Inns of Court London, which includes the Middle Temple, ensured that some of his (and therefore our) relatives received some fabulous properties at presumably bargain base prices. He also sponsored a number of nephews for entry into the exclusive Inns of Court, thus beginning a most interesting sequence of events.

Robert Keylway b.c.1607, the son of Robert K/C of Lillington Dorset was a Barrister (Attorney) of Grey’s Inn, who in addition to progressing to be one of the Masters of Chancery of England was a friend and student of The Revd. William Oughtred (1574-1660), the brilliant mathematician and inventor of the slide rule. This Robert is recorded as being increasingly involved in a legal sense with events on the other side of the Atlantic in Maryland and Virginia, but it was through his nephews that this accelerated to an extraordinary degree.

Robert’s sister Frances married a Nicholas Webb of Marshfield, Gloucester (27 Aug.1635) and their youngest son Robert (born May 1651) was also admitted to the Middle Temple aged 19 in February 1670.

Robert Keylway’s brother Thomas (b.c1608 m.Gertrude Daniel) had five sons, but it was their son Daniel (Kelway) (1628-1673) who obviously became the entrepreneur in the New World, amassing an apparent considerable fortune from tobacco, plantations and trade goods, which on his death aged 45 in London, he left to his 22 year old cousin Robert Webb of the Middle Temple.

Though the events occurring in the next few years are lacking, it is clear that young Robert Webb obviously decided to leave his law practice in London, because he is recorded as witnessing purchases of land and giving evidence at Proceedings of Council in Maryland in the early 1680’s. He married the widow Elizabeth Berber (nee Songhurst) in London when aged 38, but by 1697 he was appointed Marshall of the Court of Vice Admiralty for Pennsylvania, the lower counties and West Jersey.

At his death in 1701 he was described as a Maryland Merchant and owner of 2500 acres in Pennsylvania and one of the largest tobacco merchants of the lower counties.

BCC Dec.20

From: Bill Piper
Sent: Dec 9, 2004
Subject: Gerard/Jerrard

In case anyone is interested in the Gerrard file - Bruce's one about the legal case in Maryland - I attach a transcription and summary.
Bill

Gerrard Transcription (Microsoft Word Document)

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Warwick Kellaway	Hamilton, New Zealand	jwk at slingshot.co.nz
Bruce Callaway	Sydney, New South Wales	bruce at callaway.com.au
Bill Callaway	British Columbia	callawaybill at shaw.ca
Sherrill Williams	Unicoi, Tennessee	sherrilluwilliams at embarqmail.com
Pat Schnurr	Maitland, Florida	schnurr200 at aol.com
Cary Moore	Birmingham, Alabama	c.moore2 at juno.com
Bill Piper	Kent, U.K.	bill at dreycott.screaming.net
Brian Kelway Willoughby	Gloucestershire, U.K.	bhk.willoughby at btopenworld.com
Pat & David Scott	Swindon, Wiltshire, U.K.	kellaway at kellread.plus.com
David Kelway	Royston, Hwerts, U.K.	chanticleer at breathemail.net